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05-27-2013, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 267
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Towing large toad.
How many class a owners are pulling 5500 plus pound toads. We are thinking of getting tahoe or yukon. My wife's daily driver is gx470 lexus. We tow a grand cherokee. We would like to consolidate the 2 but not sure about the grand cherokee as a daily driver and cargo space. new tahoe or yukon is going to weigh right at 5700 lbs. Looking for input from those that tow larger toads.
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05-27-2013, 12:28 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cape Cod, MA
Posts: 1,803
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We tow a Sierra 1500 Crew (+ 5500) and when we go snowbirding it has over 1000lb. in it including a golf cart. We used to tow a Colorada Crew and I can fell the difference, but there have been no problems over 35,000 miles with this RV.
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Cape Cod, MA
2017 Entegra Aspire RBQ & Silverado Crew or GC
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05-27-2013, 12:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
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What is the rating of your MH?
Total combined vehicle rating minus MH loaded weight or hitch rating, whichever is smaller is the maximum loaded weight of toad.
Need to know that first.
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Tony & Lori
1989 Country Coach Savannah SE
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05-27-2013, 06:03 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,768
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Work the numbers, the tow rating is the lower of:
1. GCWR minus RV's actual weight (if it's not over GVWR).
2. Hitch capacity.
3. Coach tow rating.
4. Chassis maker's tow rating.
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2014 American Eagle 45T
DD 13, 500 HP
Pulling a Honda CRV
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05-28-2013, 07:21 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Jayco Owners Club RV Trip Wizard
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Location: Poinciana FL
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This is one of those threads where including a description of your RV in your signature would help those responding.
In checking your profile I see you have a 43' Dutch Star. No doubt the hitch is rated for up to 10,000 lbs, but the weight numbers still have to be considered, as mentioned earlier.
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Jay and Peggy Monroe
"Can't take it with you, not leaving any behind"
2024 Jayco White Hawk 26FK
2024 Ford Expedition
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06-02-2013, 09:17 PM
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Junior Member
Thor Owners Club
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You'll have no problem towing it. I tow a 2500HD Duramax 4x4 at about 7500lbs. You'll definitely know it's back there, but won't be an issue.
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06-02-2013, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: SoCal
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Not quite as heavy as you are thinking, but likely more comparable when rolling resistance is considered - our Jeep tips the scales right at ~5000 pounds as towed.
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Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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06-03-2013, 04:53 AM
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Administrator in Memoriam
Newmar Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's Spartan Chassis
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Newark, DE
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I towed 2 different Yukon Xls with no problems.
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06-03-2013, 05:02 AM
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
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I tow a 2003 tahoe behind my bounder diesel no problem.
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06-03-2013, 05:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
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With a 43 Dutch Star you should have no problems. Your hitch is fine. You may want a Tow Bar rated above the 6,000 limit of many. Don't exceed the COMBINED vehicle weight rating. Make sure you have a good supplemental brake system. Given you have air brakes I'd go with SMI's Air Force One which I use. Others prefer the M&G system which requires the room to extend the vehicles master cylinder.
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Gil
03 Prevost H3-45
Hoffman Conversion
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06-05-2013, 06:48 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Location: West Palm Beach, FL. USA
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The weight is not an issue as long as the tow ratings cover it. We've been towing a 5000 lb toad for 6 years now, but we have a 10,000 lb hitch and a GCWR to match. I could wish for a bit more horsepower when the grade exceeds 3%, though. Hauling extra wight up steeper grades is noticeable!
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Gary Brinck
Former owner of 2004 American Tradition and several other RVs
Home is West Palm Beach, FL
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06-05-2013, 06:57 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat320
Work the numbers, the tow rating is the lower of:
1. GCWR minus RV's actual weight (if it's not over GVWR). Not true
2. Hitch capacity. True
3. Coach tow rating. True
4. Chassis maker's tow rating. Not true
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1. You cannot "transfer" load not used to tow a heavier vehicle even if under the GCVWR.
2. Yes
3. Yes
4 The only one that can legally set a tow rating is the completed vehicle manufacturer.
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Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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06-06-2013, 09:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
1. You cannot "transfer" load not used to tow a heavier vehicle even if under the GCVWR.
2. Yes
3. Yes
4 The only one that can legally set a tow rating is the completed vehicle manufacturer.
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Do you have a reference for #1? if you can't transfer load from an underweight vehicle (within reason) why does GCVW rating even exist? If the under weight vehicle weight can't be transferred the towed load there's no reason not to simply state the towed maximum load by itself.
Curious,
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Gil
03 Prevost H3-45
Hoffman Conversion
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06-06-2013, 09:24 AM
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Senior Member
Vintage RV Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
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Location: c above
Posts: 5,525
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1982 Pace Arrow 30ft
And we pull on a KarKatty SS a 1999 Caddie Deville and can't tell its back there.
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KarKaddy SS, Toad: 2009 Genesis
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