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03-07-2013, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ahicks
Had a Suzuki Samurai a while back. If it hit a bump just right would make you stop prior to quitting the dance thing. You could then proceed until you hit one of "those" bumps again when it would repeat the performance - until you stopped. That turned out to be a factory installed steering stabilizer that had gone bad.
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I'm actually beginning to think the factory recommendation to NOT flat tow has nothing to do with "lack of tranny lube circulation" in the manual tranny .... I think they (Geo) knew they had a handling problem under tow.
Just another conspiracy theory ...
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03-07-2013, 02:11 PM
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Many years ago when we pulled a volkswagen we would hang a shackle on the steering wheel.
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03-07-2013, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bruceisla
I'm actually beginning to think the factory recommendation to NOT flat tow has nothing to do with "lack of tranny lube circulation" in the manual tranny .... I think they (Geo) knew they had a handling problem under tow.
Just another conspiracy theory ...
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Maybe GM was too cheap to install the stabilizer they new it was going to need to do that? MANY 4x4 come standard with them - especially the ones back then?
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03-07-2013, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ahicks
Maybe GM was too cheap to install the stabilizer they new it was going to need to do that? MANY 4x4 come standard with them - especially the ones back then?
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Yup! ....just sayin' ....
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03-07-2013, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bruceisla
So, after a few searches I found 2 references to similar occurrences ... and no fix mentioned. I assume they drove the Geo off a cliff ...
I'm in Florida and we don't have cliffs.
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Can you find a sink hole?
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03-07-2013, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceisla
I'm actually beginning to think the factory recommendation to NOT flat tow has nothing to do with "lack of tranny lube circulation" in the manual tranny .... I think they (Geo) knew they had a handling problem under tow.
Just another conspiracy theory ...
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That's the problem with more than one vehicle too, the geometry just isn't right.
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03-07-2013, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_D
Can you find a sink hole?
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Unfortunately ... yes I can !!
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03-07-2013, 06:45 PM
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I just bought a 96 Tracker 2 days ago and plan on towing it behind a 2013 View. It is all set up to tow and has been towed for many miles according to the previous owner. It runs GREAT and handles pretty good. But any improvement is alway welcome...
I am very interested in your damper and your pictures are GREAT could you possibly take one from a little further away so I can see placement better?
Thanks LeeB
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03-08-2013, 12:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeB
I just bought a 96 Tracker 2 days ago and plan on towing it behind a 2013 View. It is all set up to tow and has been towed for many miles according to the previous owner. It runs GREAT and handles pretty good. But any improvement is alway welcome...
I am very interested in your damper and your pictures are GREAT could you possibly take one from a little further away so I can see placement better?
Thanks LeeB
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Hi ... unfortunately, those shots are as far away as possible because I dont have the car on a lift. The camera was about an inch from the ground. Further from the car hides the damper from view. But, I'll see if I can get a shot from the top.
If it's any help, pictures 1, 2, and 3 are viewed as if you were on your back, head under the oil pan, and looking up. Pic 4 is more like laying on your right side, head near the driver side tire, looking across to passenger side frame (area between radiator and tie rod.).
one more thing for perspective ... in pic 3, the orange thing in the background is the oil filter.
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03-08-2013, 02:52 AM
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I wonder if a little more camber or tow in would help without excess tire wear.
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03-08-2013, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wyorancher
I wonder if a little more camber or tow in would help without excess tire wear.
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They are within spec but you never know. However, Camber is not adjustable (except with special offset bolts from an off-road specialty store).
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03-08-2013, 06:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clifftall
Great post. Hope it all works. The only issue I had with it was that you said there are no cliffs in Fl. What about me ?
Cliff
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OK...no tall cliffs... just a cliff tall? I hear FL has more sink holes than cliffs.
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03-08-2013, 06:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceisla
They are within spec but you never know. However, Camber is not adjustable (except with special offset bolts from an off-road specialty store).
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On my 2000 F250 Ford diesel I had to have those camber offsets installed when I only had a couple of thousand miles on the PU. I towed a 5er. Ford wouldn't cover under warranty although alignment shop said it was most likely delivered that way.
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03-08-2013, 08:11 AM
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One clarification, our Tracker is not a 4WD, just a 5 speed manual 2WD. So far we have towed it about 10,000 miles and no unusual tire wear. Actually other than the few times we had the shake there have been no problems. Knocking on wood now. 112,000 on the odometer but being an old fashion cable speedometer it racks up mile while being towed so no telling how many it really has while running.
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