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02-27-2013, 11:59 AM
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Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: Spokane, WA
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What kind of brakes for Toad????
I had new RoadMaster brackets installed on our toad and will be installing brakes next. Are there any opinions on the type of brakes I should install? I have googled this and have came up with two main types. The physical hydraulic type pump that is affixed to the brake peddle and the air type that installs to the brake fluid reservoir. AND what price have you paid to have your brakes installed or (for the do-it-yourselvers) are they easy to install yourself?
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02-27-2013, 12:18 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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My own personal preference is the M&G Engineering Braking System which involves insertion of the actuator between the master cylinder and the vacuum chamber plus a small air tank reservoir for the break-away system on your Jeep. A "T" fitting is spliced into one of the service air lines on the back axle of the coach and ran to back bumper. The only thing you do to hook it up is connect the air line between the coach and the Jeep, apply the service brakes for one minute to fill the break-away reservoir tank and away you go. No calibration (that was done during installation), no muss, no fuss.
I tried the Brake Buddy (another physical hydraulic type that attaches to the brake pedal of the Jeep) and hated it. Every time we hooked up the Jeep to tow it had to be calibrated and adjusted plus the power wires to the accessory outlet and power wires for the break-away switch. Not to mention that it doesn't fit the floor pan of the Jeep properly due to it's odd shape. It was just an all-around PIA.
This just my own opinion. I'm sure there will be others.
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2005 Beaver Monterey Laguna IV (aka The Hotel Monterey)
2011 Jeep Liberty Limited
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02-27-2013, 12:41 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club
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Thanks for the advice Craig R. (seem funny typing that.....I'm also a Craig R) The M&G web site did look like a simpler way to hook the toad up without much hassle. I think it costs a few dollars more, but less expensive than buying one brake set-up and tearing it out for another.
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02-27-2013, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csrrsr
Thanks for the advice Craig R. (seem funny typing that.....I'm also a Craig R) The M&G web site did look like a simpler way to hook the toad up without much hassle. I think it costs a few dollars more, but less expensive than buying one brake set-up and tearing it out for another.
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Have a break buddy and it is a pain.Lot to hook up and it is always running my battery dead.To expensive to change so will stay with it.Working on getting the quirks out of it.
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02-27-2013, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sonoma County, CA
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I started with the "brake in a box" and when it failed I had the SMI unit installed. The SMI is so simple to use that I wish I had it installed first.
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08 Winnebago Destination 39W Gas UFO Workhorse Chassis......It's really weird being the same age as old people. I thought getting old would take much longer.
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02-27-2013, 03:35 PM
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Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Durango CO
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I was torn between a Roadmaster Even Brake (brake in a box) and the Ready Brake I ended up going with the Even Brake as I thought I'd be switching it between 3 vehicles. The box went back to Roadmaster within a few months for an air leak, after 45 days (on a "30 day turnaround") I got back a different unit, probably a remanufactured one. This box occasionally engages in phantom braking, i.e. applying the toad brakes for no reason even while the coach is accelerating, hitting the coach brakes stops it but I never can tell when or if it's going to do it.
My recommendation is go with one that attaches to your coach's air brakes or go with a Ready Brake.
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The above post is just my experience/opinion which is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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'05 Lance 845/'06 F-250 or '99 Alpine 36SDS Usually towing an '01 Wrangler locked on 35"s or moderate '98 Cherokee on 33"s (rear locker only)
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02-27-2013, 03:37 PM
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Community Administrator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UFO Pilot
I started with the "brake in a box" and when it failed I had the SMI unit installed. The SMI is so simple to use that I wish I had it installed first.
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X2. I've had the SMI for four years. Easy to use and effective.
Cliff
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02-27-2013, 04:01 PM
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I have had my Brake Buddy for 12 years, and I love it.
Used it in a small Saturn, and now my 2012 Wrangler. Fits perfectly. No power drain either. 30 seconds to install.
Just sayin....
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02-27-2013, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CampDaven
I have had my Brake Buddy for 12 years, and I love it.
Used it in a small Saturn, and now my 2012 Wrangler. Fits perfectly. No power drain either. 30 seconds to install.
Just sayin....
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30 seconds ? Really ? Just asking ?
Cliff
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02-27-2013, 04:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clifftall
30 seconds ? Really ? Just asking ?
Cliff
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Yep. Slide seat back. Set BB in. Hook arm on brake pedal. Move seat fwd. Plug in pwr and breakaway plugs. Done.
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02-27-2013, 04:36 PM
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Community Administrator
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Cool. The SMI requires a flip of a toggle switch , period.
Cliff
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02-27-2013, 06:48 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: Florence, OR.
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I have the Ready Brute tow bar with the Ready Brake, its fast to hook up/unhook, simple to use, you don't need to move any box in/out of the toad and it cost much less than many other systems. Good Luck.
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Ready Brute w/ Ready Brake, Safe-T-Plus, Koni FSD Shocks, CHF, Tiger Rear Trak Bar, 05 GMC Envoy
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02-27-2013, 07:14 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clifftall
Cool. The SMI requires a flip of a toggle switch , period.
Cliff
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Braggart! ;-)
It was what I got back when, Cliff.
Lucky you! While I blow away 1/2 a minute about once a month!
Cheers!
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02-27-2013, 07:48 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Triple E Owners Club
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Location: Williams Lake,BC Canada
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Go US Gear. The most simple hookup - 2 wires (one plug). Totally proportional and adjustable from within the coach as you are driving.
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