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03-02-2023, 10:18 AM
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Senior Member
Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Troutdale, Oregon
Posts: 1,110
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In the past 30 years I've owned 8 Jeeps. All Wranglers. Started driving one in the Marine Corp. One thing I have always liked is their resale value. Everyone I've owned I got more than I payed for them. Today I have a 2017 4 door Wrangler with 12k miles on it. I payed $25k for it new and today I think I could get that much back.
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03-02-2023, 10:27 AM
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Community Administrator
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 21,565
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Why a Jeep? Because I can't go to places like this in a sedan!
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2017 Phaeton 40IH XSH Maroon Coral - Power Glide Chassis with IFS
Previous '15 Tiffin Allegro RED 38QRA and '06 Itasca Sunrise 35A
'16 Jeep JKU Wrangler Sahara or '08 Honda Goldwing
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03-02-2023, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Full time RV'er
Posts: 5,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan
Why a Jeep? Because I can't go to places like this in a sedan!
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Why not?
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03-02-2023, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: San Jose, Ca, USA
Posts: 2,698
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We bought our first Jeep in 1987 - it was a 1988 Wrangler. We drove it for about 165,000 miles and in 2001 we sold it for almost what we paid for it. We were Jeepless for many years, then in 2019 we bought a 2017 Wrangler 4-door. In 2021 we sold it for about $6K MORE than we paid for it, and replaced it with a 2022 Wrangler 4-door. In 2020 we also bought a 2020 Gladiator - both are set up to tow so we can choose which one to take with us. DW loves her Wrangler, and I enjoy the heck out of my Gladiator!
Why do we like them? Because we like the body style, we like the capability of the vehicle, we like the people we meet with them, we like the look of them, we like turning around and looking at them when we park them in a parking lot, we like them!
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Alan Hepburn - San Jose, Ca
2007 Bounder 35E being pushed by a 2020 Jeep Gladiator Sport S or a 2022 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (JLU) Sport S
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03-02-2023, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan
Why a Jeep? Because I can't go to places like this in a sedan!
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Nice pic! Where is that? That is why I pull a trailer so that I can bring the Thunder for the adventures such as yours.
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03-02-2023, 11:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Posts: 3,020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan
Why a Jeep? Because I can't go to places like this in a sedan!
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Alpine loop?
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2002 American Tradition 40'
Cummins 8.3, Banks 431hp, 1260 tq
Canyon Lake, TX
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03-02-2023, 11:24 AM
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Community Administrator
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 21,565
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BayRunner
Nice pic! Where is that? That is why I pull a trailer so that I can bring the Thunder for the adventures such as yours.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_M
Alpine loop?
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The other side, Ophir Pass between Silverton and Telluride.
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2017 Phaeton 40IH XSH Maroon Coral - Power Glide Chassis with IFS
Previous '15 Tiffin Allegro RED 38QRA and '06 Itasca Sunrise 35A
'16 Jeep JKU Wrangler Sahara or '08 Honda Goldwing
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03-02-2023, 11:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan
The other side, Ophir Pass between Silverton and Telluride.
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Looks nice. Looked a little like the mountain pass just outside Jerome, AZ. However, the green threw me off.
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03-02-2023, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member
Nor'easters Club Mid Atlantic Campers
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spring Brook Twp
Posts: 768
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In the 1990's you had a problem with a Jeep product. Duhhh its 2023 thirty years later. Jeep is still going strong.
You want to take your ride off the highway and do some 4 wheeling, nothing better than a Jeep. By far the easiest to hook up and tow behind a motor home.
I have a jeep 2017 Sahara. It is my tow vehicle, it is my daily driver, I have a two in receiver hitch front and back. It plows my 225 yard driveway, it salts the same driveway with a 250 lb salter on back hitch. Talk about one vehicle that does it all. Yep my Jeep.
Oh and talk about fantastic resale value, I will get $3K more today than when I bought it new.
JCP
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2021 Tiffin Red 33AA
2017 4D Jeep Sahara Unlimited
2019 Kawasaki Teryx 800 UTV
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03-02-2023, 12:15 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Palm Beach, FL. USA
Posts: 27,704
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The Jeep cult can't imagine why anybody would even ask that question. And they've convinced a lot of newbies that Jeeps are the ONLY choice for a toad. Not true, of course, but you might think so reading threads like this one.
I've owned a Jeep (an older Grand Wagoneer) but never used one as a toad. Instead I've had a Ford Fiesta, two Geo Trackers (Suzuki SUV), a GMC Acadia and a Buick Verano (the Verano was dolly-towed). They all suited my needs at the time and did what I wanted them to do.
Back in the day a 4WD Jeep was a easy choice as a toad. Shift transfer case to neutral & go. Later, it got more complex (and more electronic) and Jeeps were no easier to tow than anything else. Plus there were a few Jeep models that were not 4-down towable at all. That eliminated any Jeep advantage for towing, but the myth remained.
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Gary Brinck
Former owner of 2004 American Tradition and several other RVs
Home is West Palm Beach, FL
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03-02-2023, 12:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin
Posts: 996
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I do admire the Wrangler look but it comes down to how many boxes a Wrangler checks as a serious condender for a toad.
For off road use there's no competition, right?
Ease of towing? Lots of other toads are easy to tow. Not worth splitting hairs about flipping a switch or 2 to tow. Beware though some toads have an excessive number of steps in the owners manual to flat tow.
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03-02-2023, 01:18 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
Posts: 24,122
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Jeeps are iconic and were in demand after they were first used during the World War II. They've been slow to improve them as people bought them religiously, so why spend the money.
Modern engines and electronics have made them as reliable as any other modern car. Even now, I personally think they're still slow to refine them. In just the past couple of years they reworked the interiors again to try and make them more comfortable.
As far as being the most popular toad, they meet three big requirements; first, they're easy to connect and tow, second, they usually fall in under the weight limit of gassers and three, people have dreams of off-road adventures that few rarely take. However, they're good of taking that dirt road near the campground or driving through the snow when others can't.
If you're a big guy like me, they're hard to get in and out of and not very comfortable for a medium to long drive. There are other options if you don't intend to rock crawl. I've towed five different 4x4 trucks and found them all much more comfortable. My current truck will give the Jeep a run for the money, but is heavy to tow.
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2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
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03-02-2023, 01:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Posts: 3,020
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Why are Jeeps so popular as TOADS? My experience was dreadful.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
Jeeps are iconic and were in demand after they were first used during the World War II. They've been slow to improve them as people bought them religiously, so why spend the money.
Modern engines and electronics have made them as reliable as any other modern car. Even now, I personally think they're still slow to refine them. In just the past couple of years they reworked the interiors again to try and make them more comfortable.
As far as being the most popular toad, they meet three big requirements; first, they're easy to connect and tow, second, they usually fall in under the weight limit of gassers and three, people have dreams of off-road adventures that few rarely take. However, they're good of taking that dirt road near the campground or driving through the snow when others can't.
If you're a big guy like me, they're hard to get in and out of and not very comfortable for a medium to long drive. There are other options if you don't intend to rock crawl. I've towed five different 4x4 trucks and found them all much more comfortable. My current truck will give the Jeep a run for the money, but is heavy to tow.
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Jeep is stepping up their game now that the new Bronco is a direct competitor. The JL has some improvements over the JK. Competition is good for everyone.
I had an ‘83 CJ5 back in the 90’s and loved it. My pregnant bride, not so much, so it was sold. If only I could get some vehicles back that were sold for more important things like…. Buying my first house. I suspect every car guy can relate.
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2002 American Tradition 40'
Cummins 8.3, Banks 431hp, 1260 tq
Canyon Lake, TX
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03-02-2023, 04:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ & Plover, WI
Posts: 6,403
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I jumped into the Jeep toad club in 2010 with a new JKU Rubicon. It was going to be my personal vehicle as well. I set it up with a lift, 35" tires and some armor for more serious off-roading. It was fine off-road, but I couldn't go more than 50-60 miles on the road without getting out to walk around. The ride was ok, but it was terribly uncomfortable to sit in. Absolutely a terrible way to travel. I sold it and went back to an Avalanche for my personal ride and toad. It tows great and rides even better on the road and handled mild off road runs just fine. I have a stretched TJ on 40" tires on a trailer for the serious off roading challenges/fun.
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2006 Monaco Executive 44 Denali
2013 43 QGP Allegro Bus ( SOLD )
2013 Avalanche
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