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06-27-2022, 11:58 AM
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Air conditioner Woes
I have a 2017 tiffin wayfarer. The air conditioner has stopped working and I have taken it to my favorite truck repair. They say the compressor is shot. The air conditioner has a heat pump in it and it is a 15 Mach Coleman. Apparently these are not available anymore. So we are trying to locate a 10 Mach air conditioner without the heat pump. This also is a problem since nobody seems to have any. I am looking for suggestions as to where my mechanic can look for new or used units. I am also wondering if it’s even possible to really rebuild a compressor and who would do such a task. Any suggestions would be helpful.
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06-27-2022, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ivygirl
I have a 2017 tiffin wayfarer. The air conditioner has stopped working and I have taken it to my favorite truck repair. They say the compressor is shot. The air conditioner has a heat pump in it and it is a 15 Mach Coleman. Apparently these are not available anymore. So we are trying to locate a 10 Mach air conditioner without the heat pump. This also is a problem since nobody seems to have any. I am looking for suggestions as to where my mechanic can look for new or used units. I am also wondering if it’s even possible to really rebuild a compressor and who would do such a task. Any suggestions would be helpful.
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At the current age, I'm kind of surprised the compressor has failed. Often the compressor start capacitor(s) fail long before the compressor itself has mechanical failure.
I second the suggestion to try PPL. I replaced my Coleman Mach 1 with a Mach 3 last year; PPL had it in stock, ordered on a Sunday evening and picked it up at the freight terminal on Weds.
Good luck.
Edit ps: seldom are these units rebuildable but will defer to those with direct experience with this model.
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06-27-2022, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Solo_RV_Guy
At the current age, I'm kind of surprised the compressor has failed. Often the compressor start capacitor(s) fail long before the compressor itself has mechanical failure.
I second the suggestion to try PPL. I replaced my Coleman Mach 1 with a Mach 3 last year; PPL had it in stock, ordered on a Sunday evening and picked it up at the freight terminal on Weds.
Good luck.
Edit ps: seldom are these units rebuildable but will defer to those with direct experience with this model.
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The OP stated "truck shop" so I have to wonder how much experience the shop has with repairing RV rooftop air conditioners. I'd sure want to make sure it wasn't something easy to fix, such as a bad capacitor.
Ivygirl, is the compressor not starting up at all? Or is it running but not cooling?
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06-27-2022, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ivygirl
.....The air conditioner has a heat pump in it and it is a 15 Mach Coleman. Apparently these are not available anymore. ...
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A/C in modern RVs violate the KISS principle.
You have a standard vent. Drop any RV A/C unit in the hole. Plug it into 120 vac. Turn the ON/OFF swtch to the ON postion. Set the temperature. No remore or computer logic card needed.
That was 40 years ago.
At the time, I thought if you needed A/C you were camping in the wrong place. Then I found myself living full time for work. Bought a A/C at camping store (before RVing) after work and had it installed before dark.
And you can still do that that today.
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07-02-2022, 07:21 AM
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I vote you have a bad capacitor. The coleman mach 15 has 3 capacitors.
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07-03-2022, 05:17 AM
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Air conditioner Woes
Thank you for all posts. There is still nothing available for replacement, but I will have my repair people check the capacitors.
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07-03-2022, 05:28 AM
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It does not start at all.
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07-03-2022, 10:06 AM
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Check e trailer
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07-04-2022, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ivygirl
It does not start at all.
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Could still be something else but a bad capacitor would certainly be the cause of a compressor no start.
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07-04-2022, 04:21 PM
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Same problem on ours last month (also a Coleman Mach), mobile RV tech said it was shot without even bothering to look at it and said it'd cost $1500 to replace it. Replaced the start and run capacitors after researching the problem on-line. $60 in parts, 20 minutes work and it runs like new. Never believe the first opinion!!
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07-04-2022, 04:45 PM
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When you say it does not start at all, does that mean nothing happens? No fan, also?
Because if that is the case I doubt the compressor is bad. Sounds like an electrical issue. Could be a burnt wiring issue, contactor issue or as others have mentioned a failed capacitor.
Mechanics these days don't want to troubleshoot anymore. It's too expensive labor-wise to tie up a tech to take the time to actually find and fix the problem. The standard these days is to just replace it and let the customer absorb the cost. I have run into this time and time again and is why I always attempt to fix it myself first.
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07-05-2022, 05:40 AM
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Air Conditioner Woes
Thank you for the last two posts. I will try to have the capacitors checked.
I am a 74 year old woman who went into the medical profession instead of mechanics. I am very inept when it comes to fixing things. I do love the motorhome and like to travel with my dogs.
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