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12-06-2024, 05:32 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Chesapeake, VA.
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I know, another tire question
Narowed down to two tire choices. First is michelin cross climate with a slightly higher load rating,
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...num=275R6ACCV3
second tire is a trusted brand as well bridgestone with the statndard E rating for my rig. It has a slightly higher rated comfort rating https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...rtnum=275R6DLX
Which choice would you make? I am thinking i like the extra few hundred pound weight handling, but i like the comfort of the bridgestone tires.
Have there been any real world users that may comment on this? Thanks in advance.
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12-06-2024, 05:46 AM
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Location: Bohemia NY
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I would also consider one of these Nokians.
https://www.tires-easy.com/tires/?fi...reBrand,Nokian
the Nokian or the Outpost. Maybe use the One up front and the Outpost as a drive tire.
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Bohemia NY
2008 Nimbus 342 SE Carlyle
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12-06-2024, 06:41 AM
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When I replaced mine, I went with these:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes
Higher load rating was bonus as Class C's typically run at full load
Very pleased with all aspects of the tires now with 15k on them
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12-06-2024, 07:26 AM
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I didn't look at the tires too closely, but you mention more weight capacity from a higher weight rating, which is usually good on RVs, but that weight rating only comes from higher air pressure capacity, and if you're not running that higher capacity, you're not gaining much from a heavier tire, so how much pressure do you want to run?
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12-06-2024, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rtaggio
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This is a very good choice for this application.
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Bohemia NY
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12-06-2024, 07:41 AM
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Michelins...
I've been running Michelin Agilis Cross climates on our 24' class C for several years. Hands down the finest tires I have ever had. Mud/Snow rated, very smooth and they provide plenty of load capacity.
My coach has a GVWR of 11,500# and I run near or at that number just about all of the time. I run the fronts at 60 and the rears at 65 which gives me a nice smooth ride, talking two finger steering in just about all conditions {road and or weather}. A proper alignment helps as well.
I run Michelin Cross Climate 2's on my Honda Ridgeline and they are the smoothest quietest truck tires ever... added bonus, they go through snow like it isn't even there. Ran them through 1.5' of heavy wet snow and made my own two tracks with zero slippage or spin... the all wheel Ridgeline is a snow monster with these tires.
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12-06-2024, 08:43 AM
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My opinion.
If the actual load on your tires requires them to be filled to 75 PSI or greater, then go with the high-load 121C tires. Otherwise, go with the standard "E" rated tires.
Our 24 foot long rig with no slideouts, based on its actual weight during trips, I put 53 psi in the front tires, and 60 psi in the rear tires. With so much weight margin, the standard "E" tires are perfect.
I went with the Michelin Cross Climate and am very happy with my choice. Michelin also makes a high-load 121C Cross Climate.
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12-06-2024, 02:21 PM
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On my 30' Class C RVs, I always use the higher load rating Commercial (121/120) tires on the rear. Since doing so, I haven't had a single blowout in the rear (...had a few with E-load rated tires).
My opinion is that E-load rated tires on a 30' Class C RV do not have enough total carrying capacity buffer vs the actual load of the rear axle. The Commercial load rated tires (121/120) each add 500lbs of additional carrying capacity, so I feel like they aren't as stressed.
(On my 23' Class C I'm fine using E-load rated tires because the overall weight is much less).
Regarding which brand? Well, that's always a hot topic here with many opinions. Keep in mind that you might want to replace your RV tires when they are 5 (maybe 6) years old REGARDLESS of how many miles are on them. If in that time you only expect you will drive 5-10k miles, then you don't really need a tire that promises to last you 50,000 miles and comes with a higher price tag.
Note: Of course you should never drive with your axle heavier then the recommended spec on your driver door label.
Another note: If you don't have a TPMS I would strongly suggest adding one. This allows you to see the tire pressure of all your tires every time you get into your RV to start driving.
Safe travels!
Chris
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12-06-2024, 02:47 PM
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Notice the OEM tires?
I’ve watched more videos on Class C reviews than I can count.
Aside from Matt’s RV Reviews and Half Fast Travellers, and I know I’ve viewed others. These reviews include almost every manufacturer of Class C units from 24’ to over 32’.
In every case that I can remember where the chassis is the Ford E450, the OEM factory tire seems to be the Hankook Dynapro HT Load Range E with the fitment size of LT225/75R 16E.
They’ve performed flawlessly for me on our rig for over 50,000 MILES.
There’s always something better for anything at another price.
Has anyone seen an epidemic of failure from these tires?
If there is……I’ve never seen it as a reoccurring topic over and over again.
Has anyone tossed their OEM tires just as soon as they got their rig?
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12-06-2024, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenandterry
I’ve watched more videos on Class C reviews than I can count.
Aside from Matt’s RV Reviews and Half Fast Travellers, and I know I’ve viewed others. These reviews include almost every manufacturer of Class C units from 24’ to over 32’.
In every case that I can remember where the chassis is the Ford E450, the OEM factory tire seems to be the Hankook Dynapro HT Load Range E with the fitment size of LT225/75R 16E.
They’ve performed flawlessly for me on our rig for over 50,000 MILES.
There’s always something better for anything at another price.
Has anyone seen an epidemic of failure from these tires?
If there is……I’ve never seen it as a reoccurring topic over and over again.
Has anyone tossed their OEM tires just as soon as they got their rig?
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I admit this is just a small data sample and anecdotal, I have had 3 rear E-load rated tires fail (blowout) on 30-31' Class C RVs over about 7 years. I have multiple RVs. Since changing them to 121/120 Commercial load rated rear tires I have not had any. (knock on wood....)
In my mind, here is the issue: If your rear axle, on a 30' Class C RV is near its max weight (...I don't have the exact numbers in front of me at the moment), it requires your E-load rated tires to be fully inflated at 80psi in order to have probably ~1000lbs (or less) of extra load carrying weight buffer. That's not a lot. What happens to the weight on the rear axle as an RV is bouncing it's way down the road? The weight increases/decreases. How about when you run over a pothole? Puts lots of stress on the tire and it already doesn't have much load carrying buffer. Here's where it gets even worse.....does every RV driver religiously check their tire pressure or have a TPMS? No they do not. So many times a driver is driving with those rear tires at 75psi, or 70psi, or lower. Or what happens when they pick up a nail in one tire and the pressure slowly drops to 50psi, 40psi? It puts a ton of demand on the other tire(s). FOR ME, E-load rated tires do not have enough weight carrying buffer to make me feel comfortable. The 121/120 Commercial load rated tires each have 500lbs of additional load carrying capacity. Therefore, they don't have to work as hard to accommodate for all the above issues/scenarios. FOR ME, it's just a matter of safety. And I like safety. Commercial load rated tires are negligibly more expensive, so FOR ME it is an easy choice.
In your specific scenario, it looks like your RV is 24' and therefore weighs a fair amount less on the rear axle. For your vehicle, E-load rated tires offer plenty of load carrying capacity buffer so they are fine. On my 23' RV I happily used E-load rated tires. But on 28' or larger RVs I personally would go with Commercial load rated tires.
Everyone gets to make their own choice of course. Some are more paranoid about safety than others. Most of the time it might not make a difference. Occasionally it makes all the difference in the world.
Stay safe all!
Chris
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12-06-2024, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenandterry
Has anyone tossed their OEM tires just as soon as they got their rig?
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I admit...it would be very hard to toss perfectly good/new tires if I just got a new RV. Not sure what I would do. I suppose some people sell their used tires if they still have a lot of life. But when it is time for replacement tires, the decision is easy in my mind (if it's on a larger RV).
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12-06-2024, 04:25 PM
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SJ-Chris..............are you running 121 rated on the front as well? Wondering if it would be ok to use E's on the front? I've had 4 blowouts on the rear inner tire and thinking of upgrading to the 121's just for this reason.
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12-06-2024, 04:57 PM
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I am hoping to find more feedback on Toyo Celsius Cargo tires before pulling the trigger. Looking at 115’s for my 11500 GVWR E350, but they also sell a 121 rated version.
FWIW , James from The Fit RV put them on their Ekko to replace what what he calls Hankook “Dynaplodes”.
https://www.thefitrv.com/rv-tech/new...celsius-cargo/
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12-06-2024, 07:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VA-Apraisr
SJ-Chris..............are you running 121 rated on the front as well? Wondering if it would be ok to use E's on the front? I've had 4 blowouts on the rear inner tire and thinking of upgrading to the 121's just for this reason.
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On my 30' Class C RVs, I am perfectly fine running E-load rated tires on the FRONT tires, with 121s on the rear tires only. I think on 1 of my 30' RVs I have E-load tires on the front, and on the other one I have 121/120 Commercial load tires on the fronts. I think it had more to do with the timing of when I was buying new tires (and on one of my RVs all 6 tires needed to be replaced so I just did all of them Commercial load tires).
The front axle isn't nearly as heavy and there is enough weight carrying buffer to use E-load rated tires without worrying about it.
Note: If you are the kind of person who likes to rotate your tires regularly, and you want to rotate front tires with back tires, then I guess you'd want all of them to be Commercial load rated tires.
If you switch to 121s in the rear, it would be interesting to find out after a few years if you ever had anymore rear flats/blowouts...
Safe travels all!
Chris
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