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Old 06-21-2021, 04:49 PM   #15
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Well, my position has changed - again!


Got both spindles off without any problem - and the the only ball joint that was "marginally" good was the passenger lower. The others were shot. Noticed that the passenger outer tie rod boot was torn (others looked ok), but they were all quite loose, especially compared to the new outer tie rod ends that I had already bought.


So, I'm replacing everything - just purchased new adjusting sleeves and new inner tie rod ends.



Also, I'm attaching a pic of the driver's side top camber bushing - doesn't look right to me. Should I replace? (If you click on the pic it will rotate right side up).


Can anyone advise on the best procedure to get them in and not completely ruin my alignment?


Thanks!


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Old 06-21-2021, 08:59 PM   #16
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If I went to replace this bushing, I'm not sure I can read the numbers on the top well enough to know which one to go back with - there are so many different bushings available. It looks like the only number I can see is 23185. Nothing like what I can see in Ron's pics...


On closer review and after cleaning the bushing better - I can see 1 1/4 as well.
Was 1 1/4 camber bushing stock on these E350s?
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Old 06-21-2021, 09:44 PM   #17
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Ok - I have 2 different bushings - Part # 23189 with 2 1/4 on the driver's side (which is the chipped one in the pic above) and Part #23185 with 1 1/4 on the passenger side.


Does this sound right?



If I bought replacements, should I go back with the same - 1 1/4 on passenger and 2 1/4 on driver side??
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Old 06-21-2021, 10:02 PM   #18
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For future reference there are two types of tie-rod and ball joint tools, destructive (pickle fork design) and non-destructive (pushes on the end of the tapered shaft). I have sold/given away my pickle forks as the others work and don't destroy anything, but the pickle fork types are faster at a shop and less expensive. I'm glad you replaced everything, I think you got a good education out of the process.
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Old 06-22-2021, 09:13 AM   #19
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From what you have described, you found everything to be worn out and your plan to replace everything is excellent.

Regarding the offset bushings, I have the same bushing on both left and right sides and would feel comfortable in saying to consider installing identical offset bushings.

Regarding a wheel alignment, I would definitely plan on getting one after all your work is complete. You cannot trust the previous alignment. It might have been done with those joints partially worn. If so, all new parts will automatically change the wheel alignment. You are doing a "Great Reset".....Where did I hear that before?
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Old 07-17-2021, 10:10 PM   #20
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Thought I would provide an update...


I have replaced most of the front end parts - tie rods/ends, ball joints, steering damper and had to replace passenger side wheel bearings. Drove it 15 miles to get it aligned only for the shop to tell me (and show me) a bad radius arm bushing. So I drove it back home and will try and get those bushings replaced (seemed to drive fine although I did notice that the front tires 'lean in' - negative camber - right)?


Fortunately my radius arm brackets are bolted on - not riveted - so hopefully that should make the job easier. Most advice I've read suggests the easiest way to do this job is to remove the brackets, especially since they're bolted on.


Anyone have any experience with this job?


Thanks, ryan
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Old 07-18-2021, 07:28 AM   #21
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Hi again Ryan,

This is the first time I heard of anyone replacing the radius arm bushings, but there is always a "first time". I have no personal experience to offer, but I imagine it can't be that hard compared to what you have tackled thus far.

I want to say that after taking care of them, you will have covered it all.

As you have observed, getting that wheel alignment done afterward is an "absolute must".

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Old 07-18-2021, 08:36 AM   #22
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The alignment guy took me in the pit and showed me where the driver's side bushing had been banging against the frame - clear dent! Plenty of movement when he used a crowbar on the bushing...passenger's side was ok but he strongly suggested changing it too.
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While you are replacing ball joints, it will not hurt to go ahead with the tie rod ends. It will require a front end alignment after the front end work. Make sure it goes to shop experienced with Ford chassis. DO NOT let ford do the work or alignment.

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Quick update: Got both radius arm bushings installed (passenger much more difficult due to exhaust in the way, so I did it the 'book' way by removing wheel, spring,shock,etc).



Had it aligned for a very reasonable $89 in OKC and the alignment results are attached. How does it look? I was pretty close before the alignment as RV drove fine to the shop, but ran great on the way home (although it does seem that steering wheel is a "bit" off...


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