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10-08-2016, 09:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Twin Cities
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Single pane windows
We're close to pulling the trigger on a new Cl C but 1 final hurdle... The model ONLY comes with single pane frameless windows.
We usually have roof vents open at night or 1 window cracked. Seldom is rig totally closed up. Will we notice a big difference in temperature control or noise?
It seems no Cl C brings together everything we want. Almost ready but worried about noise (I can't stand it). Also we do not camp in extreme temps but morning temps do dip into the 40's during our fall trips. I really wanted dual pane or thermopane. Have older Cl C with dual pane and very quiet inside and cozy when chilly outside.
(Thor Chateau 31E is rig under consideration.)
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10-08-2016, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Mesa/Payson, Arizona
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Just my opinion.....but I think you would be making a mistake buying something without dual panes. It was at the top of my list when we recently bought our new Class C.
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10-08-2016, 04:22 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
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What did you buy with dual pane windows
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10-08-2016, 06:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Mesa/Payson, Arizona
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2017 Winnebago Spirit 25b. We love it.
My 3rd motorhome with dual pane windows. I would not consider anything without the upgrade of dual panes. We live in the desert, so it is very important. Helps with keeping the coach cooler in the summer, warmer in the winter, as well as keeping the noise level down.
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10-08-2016, 07:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Near Toronto, Canada
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IMHO double pane windows in a motorhome is pretty much in the same category as a diesel engine.
A few people may do enough driving and spend enough time in their rig to warrant it, but NOT very many that's for sure.
Overall, double pane windows seem like 'salesmanship' at its best. The cab has basically zero insulation, the front and side windows are single pane windows, the floor has slim to none for insulation, the roof vents are a big square of very thin plastic, the range hood, furnace, and water heater vents / exhaust, and most if not all the storage bays have ZERO insulation, but let's add double pane windows, that will make a big difference.
Yeah, sure it will, and taxes will go down and politicians will stop lying to us..........
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10-08-2016, 08:29 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Warner Robins, GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murf2u
IMHO double pane windows in a motorhome is pretty much in the same category as a diesel engine.
A few people may do enough driving and spend enough time in their rig to warrant it, but NOT very many that's for sure.
Overall, double pane windows seem like 'salesmanship' at its best. The cab has basically zero insulation, the front and side windows are single pane windows, the floor has slim to none for insulation, the roof vents are a big square of very thin plastic, the range hood, furnace, and water heater vents / exhaust, and most if not all the storage bays have ZERO insulation, but let's add double pane windows, that will make a big difference.
Yeah, sure it will, and taxes will go down and politicians will stop lying to us..........
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You forgot to mention how great the view is when the double pane windows fog up inside.:face palm:
Jon
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2013 Chevy Spark Dinghy
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10-09-2016, 01:44 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Our last RV was a Chinook Concourse with double pane windows. It also was true fiberglass gel coat (built as a mold like a boat) and "arctic foam insulation". I did notice that it was quieter on the highway, in camp and warmer on cold nights and less heat absorption. That said, there were also areas where the insulation was skimpy as revealed when I used a FLIR camera to inspect.
Our 2008 Winnebago view (current) has single pane windows and minimal insulation. It's sufficient for what we use it for and we like the added room, but I do miss the Chinook.
Bigfoot Class C's were truly built for 4 seasons with even a fully insulated floor, cargo bays, and holding tanks + fresh water are in the insulated floor cavity.
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10-09-2016, 07:13 AM
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Location: Mesa/Payson, Arizona
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To each their own, certainly. My previous 10 years of full time experience in motorhomes (not full time today) convinced me that dual panes added to the comfort and enjoyment of the coach, with respect to heating, cooling, and noise abatement. The same with our current coach. I considered it an important option....for me. Your mileage may vary.
(I never did have one deteriorate or become foggy. Lucky, I guess.)
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10-09-2016, 08:16 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Olympia, Wa
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We have had dual pane Windows on our last two MH's and would not be without. I can't imagine the water running down all the Windows in cool damp weather or desert nights. The w yet on the cab Windows is enough. Vent pillows, insulated cab separator and the Windows, we are warmer or cooler, more comfort.
LEN
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10-09-2016, 04:08 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Twin Cities
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I can't take a chance on this. Most agree that Dual or thermo pane a must on RV. The cab area is isolated from the coach and by nature doesn't negate the benefits of dual pane windows in the coach. Noise moves horizontally and does not come through the roof vents. This rules out most Thor Cl C products. Bummer! They make a nice coach and I love the 2017 Chateau 31E. Also like their 3Trax system, looks stronger than Winnie's.
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10-10-2016, 05:18 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: West Palm Beach, FL. USA
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I'll take a slightly different view. We've had dual pane glass in our coaches since 1999 and don't find it all that much better. I'm generally sold on dual pane - we spent $9000 to replace the single pane stuff in out stick house with dual pane - but we don't find all that much benefit in an RV. RVs leak so much heat in/out that the glass is not a major factor for either heating or noise. And too often they develop leaks between the panes and then start fogging. It's a feature that's a plus, but for me it would not be a showstopper if not available,
I would still rather have dual pane than not, but if the coach I loved was perfect except for that, I would probably buy it regardless.
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10-10-2016, 05:33 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Twin Cities
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We bought a Winnebago Minnie Winnie 31D today. It's a brand new floor plan and I decided I had to have dual pane windows (thermopane).
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10-11-2016, 09:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Mesa/Payson, Arizona
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Congrats on the new rig! I have watched the online videos. Beautiful! You made a great choice. I'm sure you will be happy with your decision. Keep us posted after delivery.
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