Sturdiest, upscale Class C advice?

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by dons2346

It is obvious that you went no further than the Sprinter. If you would have looked, you would have seen a over cab model with two slides.

Oh yes, it can also tow up to 14,000 pounds.

REALLY. Then it is a crappy designed web site. This is what I found for their C class models (and even less obvious to you is the fact that I spent NO time with the Sprinter after looking at the floorplan).

KRYSTAL ENTERPRISES

I see two slides - what I don't see in these floorplans or the interior photos are beds over the cab. I also looked at the video and while it showed nice design and construction it contained NO indication of a bed over the cab.

If they are so obvious would you kindly point them out.

Oh, can you access their inventory without getting an error message? i couldn't. A very poorly designed web site in almost all respects. I hope their products are better designed (and it appears they are). Are the motorhomes a sideline so they get little attention on their web site? They certainly aren't cheap I'm sure but I could find no pricing or brochures. And I'm not about to drop into the nearest dealer given I'm in Florida.

Oh, I don't need 14,000 lbs towing capacity. If I upgrade our receiver I have 7500 lb capability with my 2011 E450 and don't need that to tow an Escape (or our Flex). My previous Kodiak gave me 7000 lbs as well (26,000 GCWR and 19,000 GVWR with 10,000 lb receiver - and given our actual weight when loaded we could tow almost 9,000 lbs but didn't need that for the Tahoe at 5700 lbs).

So, hopefully what was not obvious to me might have been to you and you can lead me and others here to the info I was seeking but could not find. I've spent enough time on their site.

[rough road]

At one time we looked carefully at the Krystal and I was impressed with the product would like to take a look at one in person.
AND if we had the cash Dynamax would no longer have that '07 F550 in inventory-that is one irreplaceable jewel; a pre emissions diesel with alot of hood in front of you-that my friends is the way to go.

[Nutravlr]

I have just joined the forum and enjoyed the dialogue on this. I need to do some measuring I guess, but figures seem hard to decipher or come by. A fellow named Steve at Gulf Stream has been helpful. I can only report a first trip of 650 miles on a used 2005 Gulf Sream Endura, 35 ft, and a Kodiak 5500 diesel. My search has centered simply on, what is a safe weight to tow, four wheels down. I do not want to harm the GS or engine or Allison tranny or be a danger to anyone. Without me knowing how the weights work, or what I have, (literature has said to be 17,500 and able to load to 19,500), I have tried to determine if I can tow, safely, a 4,100 lb jeep wrangler 4-door. It seems a good combination of transmission for towing if I add a brake buddy system. Ideas of an answer or what I should further research to make the right decision on towing? Thanks.

Mike

[Purplefans & Harvey]

Is that a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited X? If so, that is my DREAM toad! except I thought it had a higher weight (4950) or so, and would therefore, be out of my range with my MH having 5k capacity towing.

Is there a more lightweight 4 door jeep that I don't know about?

[Nutravlr]

Purplefans, some literature at internetautoguide.com, a local dealer and jeep.com tells me the curb weight is 4,231. I will continue to research, but I have a 2 door unlimited wrangler listed at 3,750. This 2004 2 door unlimited is 167 inches long, the 4 door is 183. Weights seem about right to me, adds 500 lb to go to four doors and longer. I am still wondering it this is too much for the MH I have (duramax diesel 5500, 35 ft C.) Ideas?

[Purplefans & Harvey]

I may have misread the number, but I just checked curb weight of Rubicon X, and it's 4340, not sure if that includes optional Hard Top. And not sure if you need to include the hitch system in weight. We also do not want to go over the limits. On the bright side (at least for us), we won't be buying any toad in the near future as are cars are still running. We'll continue to rent vehicles in the few places we stay for longer than 3 days, and we'll save for the hitch, brake buddy system, and auto! So let me know what you find out and what you get! This is a great forum for information, that's for sure!

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by Nutravlr

Purplefans, some literature at internetautoguide.com, a local dealer and jeep.com tells me the curb weight is 4,231. I will continue to research, but I have a 2 door unlimited wrangler listed at 3,750. This 2004 2 door unlimited is 167 inches long, the 4 door is 183. Weights seem about right to me, adds 500 lb to go to four doors and longer. I am still wondering it this is too much for the MH I have (duramax diesel 5500, 35 ft C.) Ideas?

Nutravir, I'd suggest you join the Kodiak Chassis Class C group on Yahoo.

KodiakChassisClassC : Kodiak Chassis Class C Motorhomes

There are many members with your model including the moderator Ron Hall who has a tremendous knowledge of Kodiak (I'm the owner of the Kodiak Group so I know you will be accepted )

It is not just the weight of your toad at issue, it is also the GCWR (26,000 lbs), the loaded weight of your MH when you are ready to roll (do you have a GVWR of 22,000 lbs or 19,500 lbs as I had with my Kodiak gasser?), the capacity of the receiver (mine was 10,000 lbs but earlier units may have been less but no doubt is adequate for your toad) etc.

If your MH GVWR is 22,000 lbs and when loaded with people, water, waste water and your "stuff" you happen to reach the GVWR, then you are left with only 4,000 lbs to tow (and you definitely should have a braking system in your toad). This is the reason I had to buy the gasser that has a GVWR of 19,500 and GCWR of 26,000 because I wanted to tow our 5700 lb Tahoe LTZ that I'd been towing behind a 41 ft diesel pusher.

Don

[Nutravlr]

Don, Thanks. I will join. As to your question. It is a 2005 Duramax diesel LLY, a 10,000 lb receiver, and the GVWR on the door it lists 19,500, GCWR 26,000 and axles as 7,000 front and 13,500 on rear. Hope that info helps all.

Mike

[azloafer]

Originally Posted by Tangomarie

We've been looking...and looking...and just getting confused. We like the looks of the Jayco Greyhawk, and are looking for something in the 31-33 ft. range. We are concerned about chassis, weight load, but really a C would probably work best for us. I've heard some people just go on to an A, but we would just like a nicer, higher end and better built C if we can find one from a reputable company that puts out a good product.

I'd like to find something with 2 slides, NO BUNK BEDS!! It'll just be us two most of the time.

Any suggestions? Thanks for your help...

Check this coach out. It is the first coach at the top of the list that might be what you want. Brand new with $80k off. New and Used RV Sales Online

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by Nutravlr

Don, Thanks. I will join. As to your question. It is a 2005 Duramax diesel LLY, a 10,000 lb receiver, and the GVWR on the door it lists 19,500, GCWR 26,000 and axles as 7,000 front and 13,500 on rear. Hope that info helps all.

Mike

You will have more than enough weight capacity to handle the Jeep and much better torque than than my gasser to tow it along smartly.

Don

[marjamr]

Hi, We just bought one of these as our first motorhome. It seems just right to get the two of us and a Chihuahua to a vacation destination. It's only 19' long and seems to have plenty of power (I've only driven it home from the dealer so far, 140 miles.)
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[nwcanopies]

Thats a nice looking little rig! Love the fiberglas cap on it.

Originally Posted by marjamr

Hi, We just bought one of these as our first motorhome. It seems just right to get the two of us and a Chihuahua to a vacation destination. It's only 19' long and seems to have plenty of power (I've only driven it home from the dealer so far, 140 miles.)
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[tcopeland]

Looking at Concord 300ts. Any thoughts on this mh?