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Old 03-21-2023, 01:26 PM   #1
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Super C 4X4's

I'm doing some research for my next coach. I'm compiling a list of available new super C's with 4X4 drivetrains. This is what I have so far.

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Dynamax Corp Isata
Entegra Accolade XT
Jayco Seneca XT
Nexus Rebel
Thor Magnutude
Thor Omni

I'm liking the Nexus Rebel with its International chassis but the cab and Duramax name sure make it seem more General Motors than International. I think the Nexus has a tilt front end which I really like.

Please feel free to comment on these and any others that I have overlooked.
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Old 03-22-2023, 01:00 PM   #2
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We recently sold our Nexus Ghost 36DS and purchased a Thor Omni XG32. We very much enjoyed the Nexus but for our needs smaller and 4x4 is what we wanted. Like most new RV's, I went through and did needed repairs and fixes to get the Thor in good shape. We have put about 4000 miles on it since last November.

We are pleasantly surprised by the ride quality, doing oil changes and other chassis maintenance is just like owning a pickup truck. Parts are on the shelf at local parts store. We travel at 63 to 65 mph and get almost 12 empty and 10 towing a trailer with a combined weight of appx 7500lbs.

We mostly primitive camp and wanted the 4x4 for piece of mind as well as continuing to travel when the weather starts to become a little questionable. We actually installed a 3" lift to give us a little more clearance.

The single solar panel will maintain the batteries with the invertor running the fridge and the heat running the fan during good sun daylight hours. A second panel is in our future for cloudy days. The tankless hot water takes some getting used to. I will prob add a bypass valve to reduce water being wasted while we wait for warm water to get to the shower.

We spent 2 weeks in So Cal desert in February, boondocking, and the camper worked out very well for wife and I. It only has 75 gallons fresh, we were very conservative but actually still had 20 gallons or so left. We could have taken a bit nicer showers hindsight. I will prob add a 25 gallon fresh tank to trailer for back up situation.

Overall we would purchase again but the Thor did take a few weekends of tinkering to solve some mfg issues. Mostly just poor workman ship, lack of paying attention by techs on original assembly. We all know that this comes with the territory of new RV purchase. Many issues popped up after a few hundred miles of driving where things had a chance to loosen up.

The upside is that I am much more versed on the construction, and hopefully can solve any further issues while out on the road.
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Old 03-22-2023, 08:33 PM   #3
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The reason Duramax and International show up together is that International, after the 6.0L and 6.4L debacle, gave up manufacturing diesels in that size and now buy 6.6L Duramax engines from GM.

If looking used, at older ones, the Bigfoot 40M series was built on the Chevrolet Kodiak and GMC TopKick chassis and a number of owners have had these converted to 4x4, so there is a chance you will stumble into one of them. Production of Bigfoot Motor Homes ended with the 2008 financial crisis when BF went bankrupt and then was restarted.

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Old 03-25-2023, 10:13 PM   #5
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What Paul said,

I didn't see it your list.
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Old 04-17-2023, 05:49 PM   #6
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Couple of items to think about as you start looking at units.

1) and probably the most important. Please delete Thor from your list. Look at the Thor forum, look at this forum. The Magnitude / Omni is a very poorly designed mess. The Ford chassis is great, with tons of power and drives very well, but learn from mine and many others about the box portion significant deign issues. Front cap delamination, full slide issues, gas lines run through suspension, overall very very poor assembly.

2) Pay very special attention to the payload on the 4x4 chassis. They advertise big towing numbers (and the engine/transmission can handle no problem), but in reality the limiting factor is always OCCC (Payload). 4x4 adds quite a bit of weight to a chassis that already minimal carrying capacity. If you want to tow a trailer and load up your RV full of food and water, you are 100% going to be overweight. The 650 chassis are better, but they typically only come in 36' or longer.

3). Drive some of the M2/S2 chassis and walk through them to understand the differences (Renegade, Dynamax, Jayco). Mainly getting from the cab to the back. Fresh/gray/black capacities, and overall driving. Storage, OCCC, driving stability, ease of getting serviced, etc.

You did not mention why you wanted 4x4 (must have due to locations, or nice to have just in case). I started with a Thor Magnitude because I thought 4x4 was super important, but due to build quality and other issues I ended up in a Renegade Valencia and am way happier. Just throwing that out there since these are such high dollar purchases that you will make sure you are confident of what works for your needs.

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Originally Posted by pauldub View Post
Initial thought: "Those things are really cool."

Saw MSPR on website: "....$1,900,000????"

::Backs slowly away from screen, never speaks of it again::
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Check thor forums, they're none too happy with omni/magnitude
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