Super C Question 2008 Super Nova 6362

[cvbdsl]

I am looking at a 2008 Gulf Stream Super Nova 6362 but am having some trouble finding information on it. NADA does not list this model at all so it is hard to get a general price comparison/value for this model.
The price listed is $139K in CAD and it seems high, even with a 30% plus exchange rate to the USD. So some questions, looking for answers that can help. It's located a 5 hour drive away so I'd like see if it is worth the drive.

1. What is the difference between this model and the 6372 model? I also can't find a brochure on the model listing the specs and nothing on NADA. I do see some for sale on rvt.com but still would like a solid reference point.

2. Are these still being made by Conquest/Gulfstream? I can't seem to find any on their web site (conquest does not exist any more and Gulf Stream only seems to have a "BT" model), Nothing with an International or Freigthliner chassis,so are they now "orphans" so to speak? If they are not made anymore any idea why?

3. Are there any "gotchas" on this model? Concerns about engine, chassis, overall reliability, fit and finish etc. I know there have been discussions on rough rides but not sure if it cover this model as well.

4. Any other pros or cons?

I am on my third MH ( a 2003 Newmar DSDP) but am thinking of getting something newer and the Super C's like this have always appealed to me. I can usually fix anything on the house side but the mechanical issues - not so great, but I do have a good diesel shop nearby. So not a newbie to all the issues of owning a rolling house.

Thanks for any info.

[LJowdy]

Try this, it may help
https://www.nadaguides.com/RVs/2008/Gulf-Stream

[cvbdsl]

Originally Posted by LJowdy

Try this, it may help
https://www.nadaguides.com/RVs/2008/Gulf-Stream

Thanks for the link, but as I said NADA does not list this model.

Tks

Chris

[az99]

Be very cautious of that model. Horror stories were many back in its day. Loud engine, horrible ride etc.

[Sirrom]

I was going through the info package in a 2008 6362 and I found a copy of the March 2008 Family Motor Coaching magazine. You can find this by Googling it online. It has a nice article about the coach and the actual magazine shows a floorplan for the 6372 but I did not see that online. While the two coaches are very similar there are some distinct differences in the floorplans. The 6372 has a long driver side slide out that holds the hide-a-bed,dinette, fridge and wardrobe. On the passenger side is the jack-knife couch, galley and Jack & Jill bathroom. Both coaches have a passenger side bedroom slide for the bed.

The 6362 has a shorter driver side slide with the hide-a-bed, fridge, and galley. The J & J bathroom is next followed by the wardrobe. behind the passenger seat are 2 Eurolounge chairs then the entry. Past this is the freestanding dining table followed by the bedroom. I have some photo's of our 6362 if they would be helpful.

Originally Posted by cvbdsl

I am looking at a 2008 Gulf Stream Super Nova 6362 but am having some trouble finding information on it. NADA does not list this model at all so it is hard to get a general price comparison/value for this model.
The price listed is $139K in CAD and it seems high, even with a 30% plus exchange rate to the USD. So some questions, looking for answers that can help. It's located a 5 hour drive away so I'd like see if it is worth the drive.

1. What is the difference between this model and the 6372 model? I also can't find a brochure on the model listing the specs and nothing on NADA. I do see some for sale on rvt.com but still would like a solid reference point.

2. Are these still being made by Conquest/Gulfstream? I can't seem to find any on their web site (conquest does not exist any more and Gulf Stream only seems to have a "BT" model), Nothing with an International or Freigthliner chassis,so are they now "orphans" so to speak? If they are not made anymore any idea why?

3. Are there any "gotchas" on this model? Concerns about engine, chassis, overall reliability, fit and finish etc. I know there have been discussions on rough rides but not sure if it cover this model as well.

4. Any other pros or cons?

I am on my third MH ( a 2003 Newmar DSDP) but am thinking of getting something newer and the Super C's like this have always appealed to me. I can usually fix anything on the house side but the mechanical issues - not so great, but I do have a good diesel shop nearby. So not a newbie to all the issues of owning a rolling house.

Thanks for any info.

[cvbdsl]

Sirrom;
Thanks for the info. I found the copy of Family Motor Coach magazine and it was an interesting read. The author mainly liked all the features and drivabilty of the MH after 3000 miles.

Thanks for the offer of pictures but I've seen some online now for the 6362 and they look OK.

As I research I seem to have more questions. The FMC article mentions a washer/dryer but it is not mentioned in the dealer add. It may be a deal-breaker for the DW. Also seems that inverters were optional.
The mileage also seems low for a 2008 at 18K KM (around 11K miles).

I'm waiting for the dealer to get back to me with a ballpark figure.

Just FYI the one I'm looking at is shown below (though I think the dealer added a few extra zeros on vehicle weight


2008 GULFSTREAM SUPER NOVA 6362 - Motorhome- Details for Heidi's RV Superstore

Again, thanks for the information and would appreciate hearing if you think of anything I should keep a look-out for.

Chris

[cvbdsl]

Originally Posted by az99

Be very cautious of that model. Horror stories were many back in its day. Loud engine, horrible ride etc.

Thanks.
I've seen some old posts about the ride but it seem it was mainly the 6400 (40ft) that had issues for some people - bad bounce on bumps in the road. The 37ft one seem to handle better but some still upgraded with air ride suspension (around $10K).
I've also researched the engine and a lot of bad press because the Ford power stroke of the era used the same block and there were a lot of issues.
Further research shows that it the International version was less likely to have issues as Ford had bumped up the horsepower considerably above what International had done.
Ford was 350hp and the International stayed at 300hp, plus Ford put all their own parts on the block.

Still some concerns but for example I knew my 2003 350hp Cummings was prone to having the lift pump fail due to low sulfur diesel affecting the seals. I found that to be true this spring- new lift pump has better seals.

Loud engine is not one that I've seen discussed but will keep looking for reviews.

Thanks

Chris

[Sirrom]

I believe the coach is prepped for the W/D in the bedroom wardrobe closet. There is a power outlet in the closet and since the outside shower is plumbed in right below that installing a W/D should take somewhat minor modifications. I am open to speaking with you about the coach. If you would like you can call me at 503-250-1119.

Originally Posted by cvbdsl

Sirrom;
Thanks for the info. I found the copy of Family Motor Coach magazine and it was an interesting read. The author mainly liked all the features and drivabilty of the MH after 3000 miles.

Thanks for the offer of pictures but I've seen some online now for the 6362 and they look OK.

As I research I seem to have more questions. The FMC article mentions a washer/dryer but it is not mentioned in the dealer add. It may be a deal-breaker for the DW. Also seems that inverters were optional.
The mileage also seems low for a 2008 at 18K KM (around 11K miles).

I'm waiting for the dealer to get back to me with a ballpark figure.

Just FYI the one I'm looking at is shown below (though I think the dealer added a few extra zeros on vehicle weight


2008 GULFSTREAM SUPER NOVA 6362 - Motorhome- Details for Heidi's RV Superstore

Again, thanks for the information and would appreciate hearing if you think of anything I should keep a look-out for.

Chris

[porchracer]

I own the 34 foot super nova. I've owned it since 2010. It's a 2008 model. First. the super nova's are no longer in production. I've had very little problems with mine and it now has 33,000 miles on it. I pull a 28' car trailer behind it (10,000 lbs) The only problems I've had is in 2012 the abs brake system failed and the unit was replaced under my Good Sams extended warranty, since then no brake problems. In 2015 the wife and I left home and traveled 9000 miles and was gone for 4.5 months. The rough ride is always been stated and the 2011 2012 models in the longer models came with air ride suspensions installed. The original guy that was responsible for the super nova at gulf stream has since joined with another guy and are building basicly the same coach under the name of Nexus in Elkart Indiana. Because of the wt of the trailer and the fresh water tank being at the very back I have no problems with the ride. I average 8.2 mpg when towning the HHR on the tow bar at 62mph. I still average 7.8 pulling the loaded car trailer. It will pull at 72mph but there's no need and it's more pleasant at 60-65. Drives like a car. I have heard all the negatives but honestly I enjoy and love mine. Hope this helps. As a final note. The list price in 2008 was 169,000 mine had 3200 miles on it when purchased and I paid 110,000 (80,000 and a trade in)

[cvbdsl]

Originally Posted by porchracer

I own the 34 foot super nova. I've owned it since 2010. It's a 2008 model. First. the super nova's are no longer in production. I've had very little problems with mine and it now has 33,000 miles on it. I pull a 28' car trailer behind it (10,000 lbs) The only problems I've had is in 2012 the abs brake system failed and the unit was replaced under my Good Sams extended warranty, since then no brake problems. In 2015 the wife and I left home and traveled 9000 miles and was gone for 4.5 months. The rough ride is always been stated and the 2011 2012 models in the longer models came with air ride suspensions installed. The original guy that was responsible for the super nova at gulf stream has since joined with another guy and are building basicly the same coach under the name of Nexus in Elkart Indiana. Because of the wt of the trailer and the fresh water tank being at the very back I have no problems with the ride. I average 8.2 mpg when towning the HHR on the tow bar at 62mph. I still average 7.8 pulling the loaded car trailer. It will pull at 72mph but there's no need and it's more pleasant at 60-65. Drives like a car. I have heard all the negatives but honestly I enjoy and love mine. Hope this helps. As a final note. The list price in 2008 was 169,000 mine had 3200 miles on it when purchased and I paid 110,000 (80,000 and a trade in)

Thanks Porchracer;
It's good to hear some more information from an owner of a similar model.

I'm still waiting to hear back from the dealer on a price, listed around 94K in USD or 134K in CAD. Wish our currency was still at par like when I bought my 2003 DSDP!.

Thanks

Chris

[cvbdsl]

I believe the coach is prepped for the W/D in the bedroom wardrobe closet. There is a power outlet in the closet and since the outside shower is plumbed in right below that installing a W/D should take somewhat minor modifications. I am open to speaking with you about the coach. If you would like you can call me at 503-250-1119.

Thanks Sirrom;
I may follow up with you once the dealer gets back to me. As usual most dealers don't respond quickly to emails. I got a response back in one day on my original query asking for details on mine. I sent the details the same day and have been waiting over a week for a response. Guess business must be good and they don't need anymore

Chris

[cvbdsl]

Just an update for those following this thread.

I looked at the Super Nova on Thursday and really did like it and the DW didn't mind it (half the battle). The problem is the DW wants a washer/dryer and it doesn't have one, doesn't event have the place for plumbing/wiring even though a different model has it in the same place.
A drawer and cabinet would have to be cut out and refinished. Plumbing wouldn't be too bad or wiring, but the furnace may need to be moved too.

Overall probably just too expensive to be practical (besides the price is about $20K too high

DW said she wouldn't mind one a bit larger.

Anyhow a disapointing weekend, traveled around 800 miles to look at 3 MHs.
A 2007 Holiday Rambler was just too dirty and worn and needed about $10K worth of work inside alone.
A 2010 Georgetown looked like it had been hit or damaged in the rear and had a very poor repair job,
Both of the above had mis-matched paint over some type of repair.

The Super Nova was very clean, good layout very low mileage(17K km 12K miles??) but did have 2006 tires. The frame was dated 2006 as well even though advertised as a 2008. A little strange to have frames left over for two years?

Anyhow thanks for all the advice and comments.



The hunt continues (or I'll keep the 2003 Dutch Star) for 10 more years.

Chris

[porchracer]

I wouldn't be too hung up on a washer and dryer in a motor home. Usually there very small loads and uses water and fills holding tanks unless your hooked to the sewer system at the campground. Most nice campground have washer and dryers present. A small foldable wagon and off the wife goes. Spent 5 months last yr traveling and washing cloths and linen were no big deal, Great time for the wife to catch up on reading or coloring in her fancy coloring books.

[Sirrom]

I work for an RV dealership that focuses on extreme reconditioning of the Pre-Owned RV's. It sounds like you were looking at an AS-IS dealer based on the condition you reported. I don't want to violate any rules for the website by providing the name of our company but I can assure you that all dealerships are not the same. Getting the lowest price is not getting the best deal. Shop carefully and get the reconditioning details, coach history and force the dealer to expose any hidden costs. You should be able to leave the dealership and travel from lake to lake, not repair shop to repair shop.