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Old 10-10-2020, 01:06 PM   #29
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Hi Phil, I must admit I never thought of a portable TV? But then again I never thought of a phone without a cord either. I may have just dated myself.

I for one have no problem with a TV requiring me to look up or down a little. Itís that off to and angle I donít like.

I asked Coachmen regarding the Concord 300DS if they would run power and TV wire to a cabinet and they said NO. They recommended I have the dealer do it. I donít know, if I want something done Iíd want the builder to do it.

But in as much as the 2022 Concord (out in spring) is being totally redone. Iíll check it out before making any decision.
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Old 10-14-2020, 08:33 AM   #30
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I think perfect would be a Super C but only 27 - 29 feet long. Slides okay and on a Freightliner or International chassis. There might be much I don't know about those vehicles.
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Old 10-14-2020, 08:42 AM   #31
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Hi Sgare, Many reasons to buy a Class C verses a Super C. But they are not apples to apples, maybe more like doves and chickens. I have manny opinions on the subject but this thread is the wrong place for it.
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Old 10-14-2020, 09:40 AM   #32
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If there is a general rule, the cut-off between a C and Super-C is 30 feet. Anything longer than 30 feet on a Ford E450 (the most capable chassis in the "C" category), over-weight becomes a serious matter. The quantity of slide-outs also comes into play. Each slide-out adds roughly 500 pounds. 3 slide-outs adds roughly 1500 pounds.

A Super-C that is 30 feet or less, could be quite harsh on the house with regards to the ride. The house could shake to death, splitting seams and such.

Again, this is "in general", not hard fast rules because each house has it's own weight characteristics. You can also modify the chassis suspension with aftermarket products to help in addressing any such ride issues.

There is one rule that is fairly trustworthy. For the softest ride possible to protect the integrity of the structure of the house and contents, you want each axle to be loaded to within 500 pounds of it's max rating. Too much extra capability translates into a rougher ride than what is needed, and that just breaks things and splits seams more easily.
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Old 10-18-2020, 02:29 PM   #33
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Looks almost as if you took pictures of our 2018 Jayco 29XK short of the rear window. Pretty close what you have in those pictures.
I converted the bunk to a cabinet, moved and installed a bigger TV to the same positions as seen in your picture.
Ironically the total length of the 29XK is 32.6 lol.
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Old 10-26-2020, 11:18 AM   #34
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Looking at my 2007 seneca 34ss. It appears that the unit the op is looking for was built over 10 years ago. Why has the rv world lost it's way.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:27 PM   #35
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Hi edenns, All the pictures I posted are from 2020 and 21 models. If you click on the photos or arrow over them it shows the motorhome name and model.

Perfection is a Nobel thought me thinks!
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Old 10-27-2020, 11:03 AM   #36
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Why do manufacturers insist on screwing up easy-to-fix, but important things? For example, I'll find an almost perfect unit, but it has a single-bowl kitchen sink instead of double-bowl. That gets a major rejection from my better half. Even worse they don't give you room on the counter to place a dish drainer.


Speaking of counter space, at least have the decency to provide a few inches to put a coffee maker. Unless they figure people really enjoy pulling out the coffee maker from a cabinet and placing it on the dining table every morning, then putting it away afterwards.


And is it really that difficult to have a nightstand (to put your glasses on) on BOTH sides of the bed?


Also, not sure why an RV would have the above limitations, but include 6 TVs. I may be a bit of a trend setter, but I haven't watched broadcast TV in many years. All my viewing is Netflix/Hulu/etc, or On Demand. And that is typically not available when mobile, unless you got a really good unlimited data plan (which is typically unlimited only on your phone). So my plan is to use laptops / tablets / phones with downloaded content (the Netflix Android app has offline support, can pre-cache a bunch of movies and/or TV shows before heading out on a trip). And with all family members having tablets, etc, I don't see anyone really needing a TV in the corner of the camper (much less 6 TVs).
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:33 PM   #37
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Hi derekp, You are right and is the very reason for this thread. The only answer can be they are designed by engineers and drafting teams. Then they bring in sales and marketing and they say ďHey, have you ever been in an RVĒ? Itís like I say so often to my 4 year old granddaughter ďI love you and youíre a crazy personĒ! The difference is sheís supposed to be!
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Old 10-27-2020, 02:06 PM   #38
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So I ďweaseledĒ a trip to the local motorhome out of my wife last week. Looked at the Forester 3011ds and Jayco Greyhawk 29MV. We liked the construction, quality, fit and slam latchís of the Jayco over the Forester but liked the tv location of the Forester and pass through over the Jayco.

One thing that I was not impressed with was the amount of spray foam the Forester had under the floor around the wheel wells. Why did they do this and why is it so ugly. Seems like a great way to trap water, salt and dirt.

Any users have any insight?
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Hi Funengineer, First I can understand your wife not wanting to be seen with very often. My wife is a lot like that as well. What was your opinion of the interior fit and finish between the two coaches?
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There is No perfect class c .. Hot, Noisy, wasted space, Most are under powered..Etc ..Etc...Etc...
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Thanks for that in depth assessment Mr Ted. Canít help but wonder why youíd be lurking on a Class C forum with that low opinion of them?
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Thanks for that in depth assessment Mr Ted. Canít help but wonder why youíd be lurking on a Class C forum with that low opinion of them?
? I guess i just wish some one would have spoke up (or i did more research) before i bought one. We are all here to learn. Its always nicer when its Not the hard way Your Welcome..
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