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Old 06-07-2019, 11:06 AM   #43
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Sprinter vs E350/E450 chassis

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We downsized to a Thor Citation Sprinter. Now I wish I had looked closer to a Ford chassis class c. The Sprinter is a 2016 chassis and is licensed as a 2018 Coach. Plus anytime you need service you have to go to a Mercedes dealer for service which is generally not convenient or a Fright Liner dealer. You can generally find a Ford dealer in any decent sized town. Also I have found the Sprinter to be expensive to service compared to the Ford. Just my thoughts, good luck.
I have had two E450 chassis 32í motorhomes. I now have a Sprinter based 25í View.

Granted, the E450ís were heavier units. The V10 lumbered to handle the task. Pulling out from a traffic light was stressful. My wife's legs virtually caught fire due to the engine heat in the cramped leg room cab. The MB is like a billygoat on the hills. It doesnít lose speed and doesnít need to downshift like the Ford. For cab comfort and visibility the MB is the hands down winner. Oh, that V10 makes power on high revís. Good luck trying to have a conversation or listen to music. (The class A Fords are worse)

The service interval is 20,000 miles in the MB vs the 10,000 miles in the Ford. There are NO Ford dealers that would service my E450 motorhomes in the areas I lived. Therefore, I did my own oil changes. The MB gets a solid 15-16 mpg and the E450 got 7-8 mpg. There is therefore no advantage in range when traveling.

IMHO, be happy you have the Sprinter C.

BTW, I also own two other Mercedes-Benz vehicles.
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:08 AM   #44
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We too are trying to decide on a Class C also, the biggest advantage that I see is the build quality of the Tiffin. The Tiffin has a seamless one piece roof and seamless slides, it may help down the road with leaks. So time will tell about our decision down the road.
Winnebago always has had this feature
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Old 06-07-2019, 02:47 PM   #45
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So if thatís how you feel about yourself being overweight, thatís ok.
How about the rest of us in the same highway.
Iíll just never understand this feeling that a ďlittleĒ overweight is ďbuilt intoĒ the factory engineering.
And of course itís OK to break the rules ďjust a littleĒ
Sorry, sir.
You are entitled to your opinion.
I apologize!
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:56 PM   #46
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I want to thank all of you for your comments on our two selections. After reading all of your responses and mulling over all of your experiences and knowledge, we decided a Class C is not of us and went back to a 5th wheel and purchased a new 34 foot Cardinal today.
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Congratulations on your Cardinal!

Maybe we can get another 3 pages of comments if you ask for SRW vs DRW for your TV?



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Old 01-23-2020, 02:38 PM   #48
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I went to Florida rv show, Jan 15. Thought we were gonna buy a Wayfarer. Never knew about the occc capacity til I came home and started reading. The funny thing is that I called two dealerships and emailed one about a used one on their lot. To this day Iíve not heard back from either about buying a $95000 vehicle. That amazes me. Their loss I guess. Now I donít know what We will buy
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Old 01-24-2020, 07:02 AM   #49
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We just sold our 40 ft Forest River Cardinal 5th wheel. It was time to get something shorter. We are looking at the Wayfarer and the View 25 ft Sprinter. We would appreciate the opinion of folks on the this site.


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Go on you tube, there are videos on there done by a guy under the title of ultramobility that gives great reviews on class B and class C motorhomes, he actually does a comparison between the tiffin wayfarer and the Winnebago view. Itís very informative.
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Old 01-30-2020, 06:56 PM   #51
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Tiffin has great quality but that low OCCC kills it for me. Total deal breaker for me, right up front. If that is not as issue, then it is probably built a bit more solidly and is a great option.
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I went to Florida rv show, Jan 15. Thought we were gonna buy a Wayfarer. Never knew about the occc capacity til I came home and started reading. The funny thing is that I called two dealerships and emailed one about a used one on their lot. To this day Iíve not heard back from either about buying a $95000 vehicle. That amazes me. Their loss I guess. Now I donít know what We will buy
If your interested, due to health and age Iíve decided to part with our 2018 Thor Citation. Itís had very little use, 3,000 miles. Hermbike@aol.com
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So I located two different Views this week...one older and one newer. The 2008 is a one-owner (apparently garaged) and they are asking for $45,000. It has 35,000 miles and in excellent shape, per the pictures.

The 2016 is also a one-owner and has 28,500 miles. They want $65,000. Hopefully, I can see at least one this weekend. I keep going back and forth but while I am in no rush, I could all the trigger if something stands out. One body likes the 2016 while the other likes the idea of a pre-DEF older one. The newer one is definitely nicer with more bells and whistles.
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So I located two different Views this week...one older and one newer. The 2008 is a one-owner (apparently garaged) and they are asking for $45,000. It has 35,000 miles and in excellent shape, per the pictures.

The 2016 is also a one-owner and has 28,500 miles. They want $65,000. Hopefully, I can see at least one this weekend. I keep going back and forth but while I am in no rush, I could all the trigger if something stands out. One body likes the 2016 while the other likes the idea of a pre-DEF older one. The newer one is definitely nicer with more bells and whistles.
FYI ... DEF is really not a big deal. Have owned four diesel motorhomes; two didnít use DEF, two did. DEF is cheap and readily available, easy to keep track of and fill. You develop a bit of a routine with the knowledge of how your rig consumes it. Hardly much different than dealing with windshield washer fluid (doesnít smell very good, though). Just my perspective, hope that helps.
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I think my concern by being over the occc weight would be, in the event of an accident will your rv insurance cover it? Wish I knew that answer?
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I think my concern by being over the occc weight would be, in the event of an accident will your rv insurance cover it? Wish I knew that answer?
Big bugaboo is always the insurance company or the lawyers will get you if you don't........

Staying within OCCC is not that difficult, my Siesta (MB Sprinter) has 1100 lbs OCCC- When fully loaded with supplies, tools, food, clothes and 2/3 tank of fresh water, I have over 300# remaining with myself and a 160 # Newfoundland dog aboard. Remember now OCCC already includes a full tank of fuel, oil and propane. OCCC is only cargo, water and people.

The Sprinter axle weights are indeed greater than the GVWR but GVWR is not based on only axle capacity, it is braking, engine, transmission and any number of factors that are not defined. MB explains the axle allowances permit you to position the cargo as necessary and still remain within GCWR.
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