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Old 10-14-2020, 09:22 AM   #57
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Old 10-14-2020, 10:22 AM   #58
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If you look at the 2021 Wayfarer, think you will find the OOOC has increased because of materials used in the flooring. I know when I removed the cab window blinds, over cab bunk cushions [which I will never use] rear queen bed extensions and one of the two tables, gained 225 lbs OOOC on my 2020 which has the big screen MBUX navigation, information and entertainment system standard. All Wayfarers have the heaver diesel gen sets which run off the main fuel tank.
Looked at both Tiffin and Winnebago products and decided the better materials and construction on the Wayfarer was worth the slightly less OOOC. If you are ordering a new one or buying a used one, you can call Trent Tiffin directly and ask him any questions you may have.
My advice is to look at both models and make up your own mind and what type of quality and compromises you are willing to accept. Also go on the Wayfarer facebook forum and note how owners talk about them.
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Old 10-28-2020, 02:12 PM   #59
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I spent weeks adding two 100W solar panels and controller and monitor and wiring in my last RV and have no desire to do so again or trust a guy at a RV dealer's service department to do the work properly. I am planning to buy a new C RV in the next 60 days and it will be one with solar panel(s) already in place. For dry camping we could go weeks without needing to plug into shore power and we did not have a generator (too noisy for us and our neighbors). We could not run the microwave but that was not a big deal.

As to vehcle weight and the law I have read many silly posts on RV and truck forums with regard to insurance if you have an accident. No insurance company cares about the total weight after and accident and the only way to tell is to immediately haul the RV and its occupants to a commercial weigh scale to be weighed. Not going to happen.

I care about safety and the real issue is the payload capacity of the 4 rear tires which is less than 4 times the individual tire payload rating. I take my vehicles and trailers to a CAT public weigh scale and pay the $13 to have the weights on all the axles. If the weight of a motorhome was putting a 6000 lb load on the rear tires and the tires were rated for 3200 lbs or roughly 12,000 lbs at the rear axle then I would not worry about it any futher.

GCWR is a calculated value by the factory and reflects the load handling capabilities of the engine and drivetrain and suspension and brakes and the frame of the vehicle. With trucks and SUV's the manufacturers apply a 150 lbs per person load adjustment which is why a pickup with a regular cab will have a much higher payload rating than one with a 6-passenger crew cab.

The truck that I sold a couple months ago had a diesel V-8 that required DEF and it was not at all reliable as a result. 4 trips cut short as a result off DEF delivery systems components failing or sensors failing and two instances when the programming code malfunctioned.

I spent more time with planning fuel stop locations where diesel was sold than any ofther aspect of my trip planning. I could go 500+ miles on a tank of diesel but I would fill the tank long before that as often there were long distances to the next diesel fuel station and I wanted to be able to make side trips and not worry about running out of fuel. Much more difficult to get a diesel vehicle running again if it runs out of fuel than for a gas engine vehicle.
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