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11-26-2021, 05:27 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: La Luz, NM.
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Who makes a high quality class C ?
I am in the market for a 30' class C for my wife and myself...we have been RV ing for over 50 years and dont believe most of the advertising from manufacturing blogs! WE want to buy a nice unit and would like it to have two roof A/C's, the new 7.3 Ford V8 and washer-dryer and if possible a 5.5 k watt on board generator. I try to read all the info on users experience with the available RV,s on the market.
Thanks for any help, Karl and Joyce. (old timers) in New Mexico.
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11-26-2021, 06:09 AM
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Ford Super Duty Owner Entegra Owners Club
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Location: El Mirage, AZ
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Thor Quantum 29KW - Class C with Washer + Dryer
Can't vouch for the quality these days, but here is one of the few Class C units that offers a washer and dryer option with the other features you want.
MHSRV pricing is $139K on a 2022 Thor Quantum 29KW floor plan. Here is a link to one that has a few pics:
https://mhsrv.com/2022-thor-motor-co...-c-tx-i3004259
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11-26-2021, 06:49 AM
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Location: N/E IL
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I was going to suggest you look the the longer Phoenix Cruiser models which include two a/c units, but they all have a 4000w generator. The second a/c unit is isolated from the generator. It only operates off shore power. Also, no PC's come with a clothes washer/dryer.
I think you will have very few E450 chassis choices with a 5500w and washer/dryer. The longest E450 rigs are already quite heavy, close to GVWR without them. You might have to resort to a class A to include all of your wish list including "high quality".
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11-26-2021, 07:04 AM
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"Who makes a high quality class C ?"
After scouring the forums for years now, looking to "upgrade" our current Class C, I'm not sure there is such a thing.
I think the best we can hope for, until the Japanese start making motor homes, is which manufacturer is the least worst. Or, which manufacturer's problems are the most acceptable and most repairable.
Of all the Class C's out there, this latest one has caught our eye, but, there are so few out there that there are no reports on quality yet :
https://www.rvshoponline.com/product...vrm-1502916-95
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11-26-2021, 07:42 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2021
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Anyone, describe high quality..
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11-26-2021, 08:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeybitsko
Anyone, describe high quality..
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In the RV world……that might be an oxymoron.
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2018 Sunseeker 2430S-CD carried by a 2017 Ford E450
Bye 2010 Georgetown 330TS after 10 terrific years, as we downsize for the next phase.
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11-26-2021, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeybitsko
Anyone, describe high quality..
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Well, there is design and materials quality and then there is assembly quality. No one today is doing a good job of assembly quality with the labor shortage, although long time builders who have retained their trained workforce are probably doing better.
Design quality is layout, integration of the chassis manufacturer with the coach, etc. Materials quality is hardwood cabinets vs pressboard, better quality double paned windows, etc.
Poor assembly quality can mostly be overcome with a good PDI and a cooperative dealer or like myself, a knowledgeable DIYer. I have pretty well worked through all of the issues with my new Thor Axis.
But you are generally stuck with poor design and materials quality. Yes I would prefer better cabinets, windows, etc. But I wasn't willing to pay the price of a Tiffin or Newmar. And the layout of the Axis 24.1 is absolutely perfect for our needs.
David
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11-26-2021, 12:33 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Michigan
Posts: 8
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Subjective Opinion about our Class C
I found the 2021 Jayco Greyhawk Prestige -our model is the 31 FP —to be very well made inside and out. We received delivery in April 2021 as promised almost literally to the day they promised delivery to the dealership. Our model would be tough to have a washer dryer installed however perhaps other models would work for you.
Driving is excellent, the problems with it have been minor like drawers not staying closed. Otherwise—as an example- when we ordered our model it came with a regular water tank. Jayco delivered it with a tankless water heater at no additional cost! That blew us away because we were set to install one as soon as it was delivered. Our cost with labor would have been about 1K at least.
I have been very impressed with the Jayco Greyhawk Prestige. It does not come with a washer/dryer but the finishes are really nice inside including a quartz countertop.
As the title says, that’s my subjective opinion but we’ve been very happy.
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11-26-2021, 03:40 PM
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Member
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Posts: 77
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In my opinion, high quality is in Coach House and Phoenix Cruiser models.
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11-27-2021, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: N/E IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hpdrver
In my opinion, high quality is in Coach House and Phoenix Cruiser models.
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I agree with you but the OP is looking for a 30 footer which knocks out the Coach House.
Though Phoenix offer 30 footers with 2 a/c units, they come only with a 4000 watt generator which means one a/c unit is wired exclusively for shore power. While boondocking, you can only run one a/c unit.
I have read of a few Phoenix owners installing soft-start units inside their a/c units, and wire the second unit to the 4000 watt generator which allows both to run while boondocking, but that requires electrical rework and operational discipline.
Neither Coach House or Phoenix offers a washer/dryer unit and adding one later would surely require skilled creativity.
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11-27-2021, 08:02 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Southern Ontario, Canada
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The OP ‘s specific shopping list seems to be design reserved for Class A units. They presently own a 40’ diesel pusher.
Unless they’re willing to compromise on a few things……I think all of their requests will be extremely difficult, if not impossible to find in a Class C.
Meanwhile……I’m watching from the sidelines.
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2018 Sunseeker 2430S-CD carried by a 2017 Ford E450
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11-27-2021, 10:13 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Other California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dingman
I am in the market for a 30' class C for my wife and myself...we have been RV ing for over 50 years and dont believe most of the advertising from manufacturing blogs! WE want to buy a nice unit and would like it to have two roof A/C's, the new 7.3 Ford V8 and washer-dryer and if possible a 5.5 k watt on board generator. I try to read all the info on users experience with the available RV,s on the market.
Thanks for any help, Karl and Joyce. (old timers) in New Mexico.
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Phoenix Cruiser does offer their 2552 Class B+ model with an option for 50 amp service and 2 air conditioners. However it probably can't be ordered with a washer and dryer, and it's probably too small for you. A "Class B+" RV also does not have a full size bed over the cab.
Click the Popular Options tab in this link to see the Phoenix Cruiser double A/C 50 amp option 2552 model (ultimately, a Super C RV may be what you should look for):
https://www.phoenixusarv.com/learn-m...oenix--cruiser
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11-27-2021, 03:40 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: N/E IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil G.
Phoenix Cruiser does offer their 2552 Class B+ model with an option for 50 amp service and 2 air conditioners. However it probably can't be ordered with a washer and dryer, and it's probably too small for you. A "Class B+" RV also does not have a full size bed over the cab.
Click the Popular Options tab in this link to see the Phoenix Cruiser double A/C 50 amp option 2552 model (ultimately, a Super C RV may be what you should look for):
https://www.phoenixusarv.com/learn-m...oenix--cruiser
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Per my previous reply, the second air conditioner in every Phoenix Cruiser is shore-power-dependent. The 4000 watt generator cannot support two air conditioners, and I think the bigger 5500 watt doesn't fit.
One of the OP's "other" requirements was the new Ford 7.3L-V8 Godzilla engine. I assumed he is thinking about an E450 van style chassis, but cannot rule out the "F" series pickup truck style.
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11-27-2021, 07:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Other California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Dittmer
Per my previous reply, the second air conditioner in every Phoenix Cruiser is shore-power-dependent. The 4000 watt generator cannot support two air conditioners, and I think the bigger 5500 watt doesn't fit.
One of the OP's "other" requirements was the new Ford 7.3L-V8 Godzilla engine. I assumed he is thinking about an E450 van style chassis, but cannot rule out the "F" series pickup truck style.
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Ron, note in my link that the options list for the 2552 Phoenix Cruiser model sure seems to imply 50 amp service included in the 2-A/C version. Rare as this seems, they appear to be offering it.
Also, since PC builds the 2552 on the Ford E450 chassis, the OP will get the 7.3L-V8 engine in it - if the OP buys new.
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