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Cs7671 · 07-25-2018, 07:06 AM

We're in the process of selling our Coachmen Prism for a Qwest or View and curious opinions on both as far as quality. I know Entegra has a 2 yr warranty and also Winnie owners seem to be very happy with there coaches.

Just curious any input would be helpful!

Also what kind of mpg are you getting? I've been disappointed in our Prism as only getting 11mpg (I admittedly have a heavy foot).

Winterbagoal · 07-25-2018, 07:51 AM

That heavy foot is probably killing your mileage. I've found that our Navion gets best mileage (16+mpg) at around 62mph when not towing, and that higher/lower speeds are directly (inversely) proportional to fuel economy. I've found the MB turbo diesel 3.0L V6 is pretty predictable as far as that goes.
We like our Navion, so far. It came with 200W solar up top, and a 7cuft compressor fridge as standard equipment. I'm not sure whether they are the only differences with the Entegra Qwest, but that was all I could see from the brochure. It's had a few minor fit/finish items that we took care of ourselves. No warranted items required yet.

luvlabs · 07-25-2018, 09:12 AM

Easy to do a comparison - open the driver’s door and look for the vehicle weight sticker. You will be looking for UCCC. The Winnebago will most likely be over 1000 lbs and the Entegra will be substantially lower. Sprinter chassis are very easy to overload so you need to pay attention.

The other thing to consider is the fact that Winnebago has 10+ years building on this chassis and consume 50% of the Sprinter chassis built for the US market.

Winterbagoal · 08-06-2018, 07:58 AM

This might help you decide, as well.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=18V450

SarahW · 08-07-2018, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by luvlabs

Easy to do a comparison - open the driver’s door and look for the vehicle weight sticker. You will be looking for UCCC. The Winnebago will most likely be over 1000 lbs and the Entegra will be substantially lower. Sprinter chassis are very easy to overload so you need to pay attention.

The other thing to consider is the fact that Winnebago has 10+ years building on this chassis and consume 50% of the Sprinter chassis built for the US market.

Sorry, but that is incorrect about the Winnebago Sprinter having a higher OCCC than the Entegra. We have shopped both extensively. The Entegra is a new offering but is simply a rebranded Jayco, so the build quality seems on par with that line.

Winterbagoal · 08-07-2018, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SarahW

Sorry, but that is incorrect about the Winnebago Sprinter having a higher OCCC than the Entegra. We have shopped both extensively. The Entegra is a new offering but is simply a rebranded Jayco, so the build quality seems on par with that line.

Actually luvlabs may be correct, depending on how far off the manufacturer's stated OCCC/UCCC was before the NHTSA recall I posted in the prior post. Some Entegra motorhomes appear to have been "overrated" for OCCC/UCCC. According to the NHTSA, at least.

Summarized....
Incorrect Cargo Capacity Information/FMVSS 120
An overloaded vehicle has an increased risk of a crash.

NHTSA Campaign Number: 18V450000

Manufacturer Entegra Coach

Components WHEELS

Potential Number of Units Affected 58

Summary

Entegra Coach (Entegra) is recalling certain 2018-2019 Entegra Odyssey, Qwest, Aspire, Insignia, Anthem, and Cornerstone motorhomes. The Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) label incorrectly overstates the cargo capacity, potentially causing the vehicle to be overloaded. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) number 120, "Wheels and Rims - Other than Passenger Cars."

Remedy

Entegra will notify owners, and will provided a corrected CCC label, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin August 30, 2018. Owners may contact Entegra customer service at 1-800-517-9137. Entegra's number for this recall is 9903405.

Notes

Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov.

12 Affected Products
Vehicles
MAKE MODEL YEAR

ENTEGRA ANTHEM 2018-2019
ENTEGRA ASPIRE 2018-2019
ENTEGRA CORNERSTONE 2018-2019
ENTEGRA INSIGNIA 2018-2019
ENTEGRA ODYSSEY 2018-2019
ENTEGRA QWEST 2018-2019
2 Associated Documents
Recall Acknowledgement RCAK-18V450-9113.pdf 245.814KB
Non-Compliance Notice 573 Report/FMVSS 120 RCLRPT-18V450-4540.pdf 214.376KB

Cs7671 · 08-08-2018, 02:28 PM

Great info!

As far as "on par with Jayco line"....is that good or bad? I've heard both with Jayco and curious how Jayco/Entegra compare to Winnie.

Winterbagoal · 08-08-2018, 05:34 PM

Crickets?

SarahW · 08-10-2018, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SarahW

Sorry, but that is incorrect about the Winnebago Sprinter having a higher OCCC than the Entegra. We have shopped both extensively. The Entegra is a new offering but is simply a rebranded Jayco, so the build quality seems on par with that line.

OK, I must retract my previous post. Luvlabs is totally correct.

I was thinking of the Entegra ESTEEM model which is on the Ford chassis (not the QWEST which is a Sprinter.) I apologize for the mis-information.

Loggenrock · 08-10-2018, 09:44 PM

Is your Prism on the Sprinter or Ford chassis? If you're looking to change due to the mileage, that may be just your driving habits. I get 15+ mpg in our Sprinter-based Prism while towing a 3200# toad, but I travel right around 62 mpg.

AudiDudi · 08-10-2018, 10:07 PM

I also have a Coachmen Prism (2016) 24G. OCCC is 1656 and I average close to 15mpg dolly towing about 3350lbs. I drive, (like many others) in the 60-65mph range and we are in no hurry to get anywhere.

Cs7671 · 08-17-2018, 06:56 PM

What do you mean on par with that line of Jayco? Are you referring they arent as good quality as Winnie? Guess that's what im trying to figure out.

Cs7671 · 08-17-2018, 11:35 PM

I'm confused up to my Prism.
I'm asking about quality of product Entegra Qwest vs Winnie View.

luvlabs · 08-18-2018, 09:37 AM

Quality, in this case, is in the eye of the beholder. There are far more View/Navions on the Sprinter chassis on the road then the rest of the manufacturer's combined. People seem to be very happy with their Winnebago products.

From my perspective, Winnebago's experience with the Sprinter chassis gives them a giant leg up. My Navion has been pretty good and Winnebago problems have been minimal. That is not to say I haven't had issues, but they are generally with vendor supplied parts which have been repaired/replaced under warranty. Just completed another 3000 mile trip with nary a problem.