Deeded RV Lots

[sandy73]

Can anyone tell me what is a deeded RV lot? looking to purchase a lot, but not sure what the difference is between one and the other.

Thank you

[TomandGloria]

I own the lot and the structures on my lot, pay the county real estate tax on it and the RV Resort a monthly property owners association fee. I can use it, rent it or do nothing with it.

We have friends in another park that own their park model but not the lot. They pay a yearly increasing monthly rental fee with no end in site. Not a whole lot of choices unless they sell their park model

[docj]

Originally Posted by TomandGloria

I own the lot and the structures on my lot, pay the county real estate tax on it and the RV Resort a monthly property owners association fee. I can use it, rent it or do nothing with it.

We have the same setup at our park in Rockport TX. Our lot is ~3,000 sq ft and we have "fee simple" ownership of it. On our property is a structure which is a combination of "casita" and shed. We pay real estate taxes and carry insurance on our property. We don't rent ours when we travel, but we could if we wished.

[ctpres]

Hard to find but another option. Lease - we have 40 year lease - pay total up front and then annual share of taxes etc. In our case annual cost is under 1k plus electric.

[TJFogelberg]

And similar to an HOA (Homeowner's Association), the community may have recorded covenants that govern use of the property.

[reubenray]

I own my lot, pay taxes on it plus the house that we had built on it. I do pay HOA fees and the HOA does have covenants.

[momdoc]

"Renting" always seemed like a bad idea to me.

[bruceisla]

Originally Posted by momdoc

"Renting" always seemed like a bad idea to me.

That depends on quite a few factors:


Your finances.



Your age (upon demise what will you do with the property?).


Your anticipated length of use (how long will you occupy the site each year?).


Rental possibility.


Anticipated duration of RVing (how long until you don't want to (or can't) RV?).


Frequently, it's a better option to rent 1 or multiple sites across the year.

[LuckyDucks]

We have experience with three different long-term options. We own two deeded properties in WA - one in Ocean Park and the other near Olympia. We are on also the waitlist to join an Escapees co-op in Temecula CA.

The Ocean Park property is a partially developed lot in a mixed-residential and residential use community at the beach on Washington’s Long Beach Peninsula. We purchased this property to use for RVing, with the option of later building a beach cottage. Our lot is fenced, we have a concrete slab, septic system, two electric hookups, a storage shed, hot tub, fire pit, horseshoe pit, Internet & Satellite TV hookups. We are a five minute walk to the beach and can hear the surf from our property. The HOA has about 2,300 members and costs about $600 per year, which includes water & a garbage disposal and maintains walking trails to the beach and some common areas. There are some annoying but tolerable CC&Rs - we must keep our trees trimmed to 24’ (protects views of those who live on the ridge) and we can’t leave store our RV unattended on the property between 11/1 and 3/15, although there is an RV storage area. The winter restricted use is OK with us because the coastal weather is pretty harsh in the winter months. Plus we can have the RV on the property when we are with it - so if we want to go clamming or fishing we can. We are 5 min from a small town that has groceries, hardware & a few restaurants. We are 45 min from Astoria OR where we enjoy tax-free shopping. Portland OR is 2 hours away. We can rent our lot, but it must be for a min of 2 month, no short-term rentals.

Our other property is located in Lost Lake RV Resort near Lacey WA. We have a deeded lot with two storage buildings and two hook-ups. We have water, electric, septic and drop-off garbage disposal. We purchased a double-lot with plans to put a park model on the lot in the next couple years. We are also having a canopy cover built for the RV and are adding a deck & doing some landscaping. This is a deeded RV lot. The resort has very nice amenities and is friendly with all owners having RVing in common. There are no age restrictions, but there is a limit of two-persons per property, so there are no children other than visiting grandkids. We have a five-acre Lake stocked with fish. It’s great for kayaking, canoeing, paddle boating or swimming. There is a large deck and clubhouse at the lake. We also have a gym, swimming pool, pickleball courts, mini-golf and playgrounds. There is a laundry facility, but we have a washer-dryer in our storage cabin. We get our mail & packages delivered to the mail center and we can have it forwarded when we travel. There are social activities if you want to participate, or you can keep to yourself. The resort is very natural with large, old growth trees. It has the look and feel of a campground. Our HOA fees are higher because we have more amenities and fewer owners (less than 300 lots) so we pay $275 per month, which includes water, garbage, rec facilities, mail service and CATV. We also have low-cost Internet. We are in the woods, but only 15-20 min from town with plenty of shopping, services & restaurants. We are 30 min from Tacoma, an hour from Seattle and 2 1/2 hrs from Portland OR (depending on traffic, which can be terrible) The CC&Rs are very reasonable and help protect the property values. We can rent our lot, but rentals have a 3-month minimum.

The Escapees Jojoba Hills co-op is a Sun City-type community located on a hill in outside of Temecula CA. It’s a sunny, warm winter environment and really hot in the summer, when we will escape to WA. The lots all have a storage shed, septic, water & electricity. There are many recreational and hobby amenities, including a large pool, hot tubs, pickleball, gym, air gun range, art studio, woodworking shop, auto repair shop, many craft options, library with movies, a house for hosting gatherings, etc. You buy in to the co-op for $35K, which you get back when you leave. RVs must be under 20 years old when you buy in. You pay monthly dues of ~$250 which includes water, septic, CATV, and faculties, plus electricity. Jojoba Hills is about 30 min from Temecula and 1 1/2 hrs from San Diego or Palm Springs and 2 hours from Los Angeles. Since you don’t own the lot, if you choose to rent it out, the money goes to the co-op.

We plan to sell our Ocean Park property in the next year or so and use our Lost Lake property for summers. Our daughter lives nearby in Tacoma and is giving birth to our grandson soon, so we want to be closer to her. We have a Thousand Trails Membership so we can use one of their beach campgrounds when we feel the need to get to the ocean.

I hope this helps describe some different options for RV lot ownership. Keep in mind the local county ordinances will regulate RV usage, so be sure the county will allow you to fulfill your RV plans before you buy.

[DJBSDB]

We are in a 99 yr lease owned by our Park's Association. The association is made up of all the rv lot lease owners..We pay a small association fee, covers, our parks expensives. We can rent, or sale the lease on our lot. We owned a RV lot in another park,, had a deed, then paid HOA dues for upkeep and park expesives. Either way good, renting your RV lot in the long run usually is more expensive.

[lce3]

Originally Posted by sandy73

Can anyone tell me what is a deeded RV lot? looking to purchase a lot, but not sure what the difference is between one and the other.

Thank you

Wondering what options you are considering.

We are looking at the differences between Escapees co-ops, Escapees ERPU (5-year lease), and deeded. We have a little idea but it does get confusing.

[TJFogelberg]

The big advantage of the co-op programs is automatic redemption at death or 5 years, depending on the specific co-op's contract. They also tend to have lower up front investment and lower annual operating costs.

With a deeded lot, you generally sell on your own. Most parks have a number of lots for sale at any given time. Depending on local demand and other factors, this can make it difficult to sell.
Deeded lots take on similar characteristics to S+B. Sheds, carports, concrete work, pavers, sun shades etc. All of this costs $ and requires maintenance.

This is probably 1 reason the co-op's have long waiting lists
Cheaper and easier to get out.

[twogypsies]

Originally Posted by lce3

Wondering what options you are considering.

We are looking at the differences between Escapees co-ops, Escapees ERPU (5-year lease), and deeded. We have a little idea but it does get confusing.

The Escapee Co-op parks are run by the lot owners. They do have waiting lists. The Benson, AZ has an excellent system for their wait list. When a lot becomes available it's posted online. Folks anywhere on the wait list can call in on a particular Saturday for that lot. The lowest number calling in gets the lot. You can be #200 on the list and get the lot. Many on the list aren't ready to settle down yet so they don't call in. Their # keeps moving up and more than likely when they do call in they'll get a lot. Once you get a lot you have another much easier chance to try to change lots when one becomes available. You have first choice over the Saturday call-ins. Many take any lot just to get into the park and then switch lots to one of more desireable ones.

Some of the co-ops require you to be #1 to get a lot and you can refuse a lot only once or twice and then you'll be moved down to the bottom of the list.

As the name is, a co-op park asks that you help run the park in some way - be on the Board, sell propane, be a member of one of many committees, kitchen, clubhouse, landscaping, etc.

Each co-op is run differently. There's a yearly maintenance fee but no monthly fees. Click on the individual co-op link on the Escapees web site to read all about them. The best ones as far as we think - and we've visited all of them are Benson, AZ, Jojoba in CA and the Co-Ho Washington one. You have to be a member of Escapees to get a lot.

If there's a waiting list... and there usually are... when you're ready to sell you get all your money back, including improvements. The transfers usually happen within a month.

The other kind of park are the Escapee Rainbow Parks - operated by the Escapee Club . They can be either individually owned lots & you're responsible for selling it or leased lots. They are run differently from the above-mentioned co-op parks. Again, you can use the web site to read about each park.

https://www.escapees.com/benefits/rv...p-co-op-parks/

[lce3]

Originally Posted by twogypsies

The Escapee Co-op parks are run by the lot owners. They do have waiting lists. The Benson, AZ has an excellent system for their wait list. When a lot becomes available it's posted online. Folks anywhere on the wait list can call in on a particular Saturday for that lot. The lowest number calling in gets the lot. You can be #200 on the list and get the lot.
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https://www.escapees.com/benefits/rv...p-co-op-parks/

Thanks for the great follow up. Interesting about the Benson co-op. That does sound better in my opinion. So far we've looked at Benson, but talked to people at Wauchula and Summerdale. Both of those have the policy of having to get to #1 and if you aren't ready and turn it down 3 times you get moved to the bottom of the list again.

Summerdale seems to have it all - RV park, leased sites, ERPU sites, and deeded lots.

You said you checked them all out but saw you are back in S&B now. Did you ever lease at one of the Escapees parks?