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Old 10-09-2021, 09:40 AM   #71
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When hiking with your dw, you don’t have to outrun a bear. You only have to outrun your dw.
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" ....I It's gross, but store garbage in you vehicle or away from you high in a tree. Not in a fire pit.
In your vehicle? Not a good idea. I know someone who had their Jeep Cherokee window smashed and inside trashed this past August. The ranger discovered that they had unknowingly left a single empty chocolate candy bar wrapper in the side bin of the door.
I put trash inside an air tight container inside a cooler in the RV when in bear country and a bear-box isn't available. Overkill? Maybe but we've never had a bear encounter even when others in the park did.
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We generally spend a week every year, boondocking in the national forest, about 15 miles east of the NE entrance to Yellowstone. Grizzlys are quite common in the area, but we've never experienced a problem with them.

About 10 years ago, a woman was killed by a grizzly while tent camping in one of the nearby campgrounds. Since then, all of the N.F. campgrounds in the immediate vicinity prohibit tents and soft sided campers.

We make sure to maintain a very clean campsite, and stash our grill in the truck, instead of in the RV. We also keep bear spray handy, although we've never needed to use it.

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My impression is that NPS is doing a pretty good job these days of keeping Yellowstone bears from getting habituated.
.... and yet, there are still some very stupid people out there.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2021/1...t-yellowstone/
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We generally spend a week every year, boondocking in the national forest, about 15 miles east of the NE entrance to Yellowstone. Grizzlys are quite common in the area, but we've never experienced a problem with them.

About 10 years ago, a woman was killed by a grizzly while tent camping in one of the nearby campgrounds. Since then, all of the N.F. campgrounds in the immediate vicinity prohibit tents and soft sided campers.

We make sure to maintain a very clean campsite, and stash our grill in the truck, instead of in the RV. We also keep bear spray handy, although we've never needed to use it.

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Joel, thanks for sharing your experience.
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Do you have any data on bears ignoring bear spray after their first encounter? Seems unlikely to me that they can just ignore 3 million scoville units in the eyes, nose, and mouth.
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I donít know about a bear, but can tell you from experience that oc spray didnít discourage an angry bull mastiff. A fire extinguisher was then required on future endeavors.
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Do you have any data on bears ignoring bear spray after their first encounter? Seems unlikely to me that they can just ignore 3 million scoville units in the eyes, nose, and mouth.
I've personally seen a black bear ignore repeated blasts of ammonia in his eyes from a sprayer. Bear spray disrupts a bears swallowing , similar to shoving your fist down it's throat. ( Look up a grizzly attack near Choteau mt. A guy flung twice remembered just that and saved his own life. He was torn up but alive.) Chili pepper would accomplish little once the bear knows it won't kill him. Animals do not react to pain like we do. I wonder if they even have the same number of nerve receptors we do. Ideally in your party there will be those with spray,[Mod Edit] and those that run slower than you.
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I've personally seen a black bear ignore repeated blasts of ammonia in his eyes from a sprayer. Bear spray disrupts a bears swallowing , similar to shoving your fist down it's throat. ( Look up a grizzly attack near Choteau mt. A guy flung twice remembered just that and saved his own life. He was torn up but alive.) Chili pepper would accomplish little once the bear knows it won't kill him. Animals do not react to pain like we do. I wonder if they even have the same number of nerve receptors we do. Ideally in your party there will be those with spray, [Mod Edit] and those that run slower than you.
Ammonia is not bear spray, and your speculations about how animals react to pain are not data.
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This article is the closest thing I could find to scientific documentation of bear spray failing to deter attacks in some cases:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3873165

I can't access the full article without a paid subscription, and there is nothing in the abstract that says whether the attacking bears had prior experience with bear spray. Also note that this is a fairly old article; I don't know if the composition of commercially available bear spray has changed since then.

One thing seems clear from this paper. Bear spray's incapacitating effects don't last forever. Once you've stopped the attack, you need to leave the area as expeditiously as possible. If the attack site is your camp site, leaving immediately may not be possible or desirable. [Mod Edit]
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You're the wildlife biologist and asking on a RV forum what to do in regards to what a bear prefers to eat (smell)?
One bear may run from the smell of a human, 10's of miles away... the next one will be curious and 'knock' on the camper door, who knows what they are looking for.
But you want to take the wife into KNOWN bear territory and camp, ask the local wildlife folks and/or rangers for advice, at least they will know the area and also know if someone is in the woods "feeding" bears and where to look for the body..
I was hoping for some useful suggestions that might be useful for many of us. Hopefully there will be some coming that will answer some of the questions posted.
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I was hoping for some useful suggestions that might be useful for many of us. Hopefully there will be some coming that will answer some of the questions posted.
What, exactly, do you want answered?
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