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flaggship1 04-14-2013 10:14 AM

R U an RV Mutant too?
 
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Just for fun! :) A while back Campdaven was in a DEEP quandary and posted a thread to that effect. What troubled him was that his current MH has lots of toys, FAR more than his previous rigs, BUT he does not have:

"Heat pumps, TPMS, 4 slides (only 2), Electric basement door locks, Keyless entry, ScanGuage (et al), Residential refer, Solar panels, LED lights, Satellite dish, Clear coat, Diamond Shield, Bra, Toad guard, Full width Mud flap, Spare tire, Engine performance chip, Motion sensor lights, Window awnings, Mini-fridge - Freezer, Washer/dryer, Ice maker, Dishwasher, Extra bath, Extend-a-stay, Outdoor recliners, Exhaust brake, Bike rack, A BIRD? (no clue), Rope lights, 2 way radio, Extended Warranty".

He asked , "Why do I not miss this stuff, and why am I happy without them? Am I a mutant?" I replied, “Yes, an RV mutant. Takes one it know one.” While our rig has some things Daves doesn’t, I understand where he's coming from. We traveled many years and miles in a '91 Airstream 190 B Van bought new and kept it until a short while ago. We traveled light and happy. Dave has a diesel in the front, ours is in the rear, yours may be a gasser. No engine qualifications for RV Mutants.

Our Bounder does not have a lot of fancy stuff and doesn't look like the lobby of a casino. That's the way this RV Mutant likes it. BUT, opulent rig owners can be RV Mutants too. We can’t all have everything, so we get what suits our circumstance, are glad we did and mutate to meet our environment. We don't miss what we don't have. To the RV Mutant, as Dave likes to say “The journey is our destination.“ The goal isn’t to own the most expensive rig, with the most gadgets, or the place you thought you wanted to go. It’s the adventure of getting there your way and exploring and finding things, places, and people you never imagined existed and adapting or “mutating” to meet the adventure.

Since his original post we have identified some qualities we agree on. You may agree or not, but your thoughts on how to have a great journey are invited.




RV Mutants
  • Protect and grow the nest egg.
  • Don't carry debt. You need the space for important things.
  • Plan your escape and escape your plans. Make the dream happen, then wing it.
  • Don't miss what ya ain't got. Be happy with ya have and to be on the road, your way.
  • Take what ya think ya need and when ya figure out ya don't need it - get rid of it.
  • Take care of what ya have.
  • We also like to pay others to work. Will do small things but won’t wash and wax 33+ feet for instance. We're retired!
  • Dave and I both owe our adventure to our DWs who enjoy laughing at us and keeping us in line. :bow:
If you are or think you might be an RV Mutant let us know what ya ain't got and don't need - or what ya must have and how you roll - or any qualities ya think make for a happy RV life, present or future. Dave is full timing now - we will be next year - so how ya did you do it, are you an adaptable mutant or a hard schedule planner, and why? Ya don’t have to be full time or ever plan to be in order to be an RV Mutant. But ya can’t worry about what you can’t control, must control the things ya can, and mutate to meet adventures that come your way. This is just for fun and many aspects have been covered already - but hey - If you feel like being a RV Mutant, join in the discussion. Either way -

Safe and happy RV mutating. :popcorn:
RVM2 Steve
When you get to this sign - turn right and you'll be in RV Mutant land in no time.
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Papawto5 04-14-2013 11:15 AM

DW and I are so blessed it would be whining to discuss too many "wants". Our MH is so much of an upgrade from our 5er (that we had no tow vehicle for so it sat at the CG for 11 years), we are "living our dream one mile at a time".

I guess I'd say that I miss my king sized bed and my cable TV the most. Satellite systems seem to be too expensive for its limited use and a king bed doesn't fit in my 2011 Coachmen SportsCoach (unless I'm missing some technique that will enable the width).

Oh yea, 18 mpg would be nice. Now see, I'm whining.

flaggship1 04-14-2013 11:35 AM

Papawto5 - recognizing we're blessed to have the life we do is high on the list to adapting to the RVM life. We are budgeting to have an occasional night or two now and then in a hotel to cover the king bed and garden tub we wont have - but not miss. It's just nice to have a change of pace now and then. I've said it before, there's something about a hotel bar, room service and putting on your best duds. Enjoy the journey 1 mile at a time!

jdoc 04-14-2013 12:11 PM

Steve, I can't count the number of times I/we have looked at our Bounder and then compared it to the high dollar rigs. Our Bounder has everything we need and it also has some things that those other rigs don't. We bought it for what we wanted not for what some one else wanted. Every now and then I think, I wish I had something better but, then I wake up and remember why we bought the one the did. It gets us where we are wanting to go, it allows us to live the way we want to and, it is comfortable for us. As you know later this year we are going to the BOA/BU rally in Ohio. This will be the longest trip we have ever taken in our rig. We are looking forward to this trip not only because of where we are going but, because we will be doing what we enjoy. Seeing this great country of ours through the windshield of our wonderful Bounder motor home. So, if this makes me a RV Mutant then I am glad to be one.

Jerry

flaggship1 04-14-2013 12:16 PM

Jerry - Dave is RVM1, this makes you RVM3. Who knows. Maybe one day there will be an RVM rally and we all get together and share adventures in like minded journeys! Look forward to that day. :D

CampDaven 04-14-2013 05:47 PM

Hey, I am holding an RVM rally right now!

33% participation of all members from across the country is pretty good, dontcha think?

flaggship1 04-14-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CampDaven
Hey, I am holding an RVM rally right now!

33% participation of all members from across the country is pretty good, dontcha think?

RVM1 - we'll have better participation next year. And Jerry is relatively close to me and we may have 66% before the year ends.

Hope all is well!

CampDaven 04-14-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1531575)

RVM1 - we'll have better participation next year. And Jerry is relatively close to me and we may have 66% before the year ends.

Hope all is well!

Perhaps 100% participation!
RVM could set an all time RV club record.
Whatcha think, Jerry...er...RVM3?

Any more RV Mutants out there?
Give us a shout

4kids 04-14-2013 08:36 PM

Sounds a lot like "Zen and the Art of...RV Living"!
I am a wannabe RVM. What I don't have and don't need (among many other things) is insulation--because I don't want to go anywhere the temp drops below 50. What I do require is a comfortable hammock and a good book.

CampDaven 04-14-2013 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4kids (Post 1531782)
Sounds a lot like "Zen and the Art of...RV Living"!
I am a wannabe RVM. What I don't have and don't need (among many other things) is insulation--because I don't want to go anywhere the temp drops below 50. What I do require is a comfortable hammock and a good book.

YOU are qualified!
RVM4?

4kids 04-14-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CampDaven (Post 1531784)

YOU are qualified!
RVM4?

Woohoo! :)

jdoc 04-14-2013 09:10 PM

RVM1, sounds good to me. I have those rallies a lot also, RVM1. Let's get it on.

RVM1 (Jerry)

jdoc 04-14-2013 09:11 PM

Forgot something. Welcome aboard RVM4.

RVM3

flaggship1 04-14-2013 10:28 PM

4kids - been following your posts since ya joined up the other day. Welcome! You're a quick study on the Zen and the the art of... Your screen name and RVM4 are in balance. How cool is that? If you read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance - perhaps we should dub you Phaedrus - but only in the most positive and mutant like manner.

Ya either get it or don't. If you think or know you're an RV Mutant, let's hear from you.
RVM2 - Steve and Annie

flaggship1 04-14-2013 10:38 PM

Papato5 - you didn't exactly say if you were an RV Mutant or not. If you're in - that would make you RVM5 and that would be fitting.

Campdaven RVM1
Flagship1 RVM2
Jdoc RVM3
4kids RVM4

We're growing in numbers and mutating nicely. Remember - the journey is the destination.
RVM2 - Steve and Annie

Big Oil Guy 04-15-2013 12:43 AM

I run a 17 year old rig without babying it, and expect it to run and perform like a new one. We purposely chose a rig with NO slides, because of how we would use it: enjoying maximum space when pulling over for a quick meal or nap, rarely stopping more than a few days anywhere, only two of us, wide-body just feels "cozy", being quite adverse to expenses associated with slide repair on a 17 year old rig, etc.

I must definitely be a slide adverse RVM, so what am I #5 or #6?

flaggship1 04-15-2013 06:11 AM

Papato5 - you are RVM5

Big Oil Guy - you are officially RVM6

Welcome aboard!

CampDaven 04-15-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1532089)
Papato5 - you are RVM5

Big Oil Guy - you are officially RVM6

Welcome aboard!

This is awesome!
6 RV Mutants!
I sense the possibility of a fun gathering in the Fall.

flaggship1 04-15-2013 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CampDaven

This is awesome!
6 RV Mutants!
I sense the possibility of a fun gathering in the Fall.

RVM1 - it will be interesting to see if RVMs can gather - or if it will be like herding cats. Lol.

Papato5 provided a great RVM tenet. RVMs take it one mile at a time. :D

Have a great day Dave - and same to all you other RVMs out there (present and future).
RVM2

Happy Prospector 04-15-2013 06:52 AM

They make electric basement door locks? Keyless entry? What the hay?

flaggship1 04-15-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Prospector
They make electric basement door locks? Keyless entry? What the hay?

And electric dump valves - don't have em. Don't want em. Lol.

Happy Prospector - was that your application? It sure sounds like it.

CampDaven 04-15-2013 07:14 AM

How about this:

1. Follow this thread.
2. Think about what you aint got, and ask yourself: "Why do I not miss this stuff, and why am I happy without them?"
3. Declare yourself an RV Mutant
4.Take the next RVM number
5. Post it here

You are welcome, one and all

flaggship1 04-15-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CampDaven
How about this:

1. Follow this thread.
2. Declare yourself an RV Mutant
3. Take the next RVM number
4. Post it here

You are welcome, one and all

Awesome - see why you're RVM1 :D

Happy Prospector is RVM7

Next up RVM8. Enter and sign in please.

CampDaven 04-15-2013 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1532180)

Awesome - see why you're RVM1 :D

Happy Prospector is RVM7

Next up RVM8. Enter and sign in please.

I edited last post.
Just for clarity.
Also for declarity

Shadowcatche 04-15-2013 08:46 AM

We are at the other end of the RV spectrum with a large teardrop trailer. It has most everything a larger unit has, shower, satellite TV and radio... When boondocking we can pul water from lakes and streams and do some off road. Best thing, we get 20mpg

CampDaven 04-15-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowcatche (Post 1532257)
We are at the other end of the RV spectrum with a large teardrop trailer. It has most everything a larger unit has, shower, satellite TV and radio... When boondocking we can pul water from lakes and streams and do some off road. Best thing, we get 20mpg

If there are things that you aint got that you dont need, you Qualify!
RU an RV Mutant too?

RVM1

SylviaCub 04-15-2013 09:18 AM

My name is Sylvia and I am an RV Mutant. :D I'll take RVM#9, please.

We are in the process of refurbishing a 1979 travel trailer that will likely end up being an complete rebuilt. I get a kick out of the folks who bought new or near new, admittedly glorious MHs, and then decide the amenities they bought were not to their liking.

I believe that often "less is more" when it comes to RVs. Want to see my "rv clothes washer?" Here she is... About Us
and it's made in the USA, (Nampa, ID) 20 plunges and most clothes are clean. I use it at home sometimes too.

Dick Noble 04-15-2013 11:33 AM

RVM
 
I wanna Join! I'll be RVM10 (into double numbers). We are 1/2 timers. 6 months out and 6 months at the S&B. We spend 5 months down south, one on the road and then return to the nest.

I'm into modifying the 5er because I have to - just have to.

flaggship1 04-15-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Noble
I wanna Join! I'll be RVM10 (into double numbers). We are 1/2 timers. 6 months out and 6 months at the S&B. We spend 5 months down south, one on the road and then return to the nest.

I'm into modifying the 5er because I have to - just have to.

Welcome RVM10. A rolling mutant gathers no moss! I like additions too but in true mutant fashion, I try to get rid of something I don't need when I add things. Can be a challenge, but RVMs love a challenge. :D

woodburner 04-15-2013 12:03 PM

Kssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhht. RV MUTANT 11 TO RV MUTANT 1.....
KSSSHHHHT....Do we have clearance for landing?:eek:

flaggship1 04-15-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodburner
Kssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhht. RV MUTANT 11 TO RV MUTANT 1.....
KSSSHHHHT....Do we have clearance for landing?:eek:

I think RVM1 is living the good life today. RVM11 - you're cleared to land. (I was an AF Air Traffic Controller so I guess I'm still able to provide clearance.)

One thing for sure - you get it!! KSSSSHHHT RVM2 Out :D KSSSSHHHT

jdoc 04-15-2013 01:58 PM

Wow, this is awesome. Welcome to all the new RVM's.

RVM3

CampDaven 04-15-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodburner (Post 1532465)
Kssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhht. RV MUTANT 11 TO RV MUTANT 1.....
KSSSHHHHT....Do we have clearance for landing?:eek:

Are you actually Roger Willco?

Welcome RVM11

Dave

CampDaven 04-15-2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SylviaCub (Post 1532294)
My name is Sylvia and I am an RV Mutant. :D I'll take RVM#9, please.

We are in the process of refurbishing a 1979 travel trailer that will likely end up being an complete rebuilt. I get a kick out of the folks who bought new or near new, admittedly glorious MHs, and then decide the amenities they bought were not to their liking.

I believe that often "less is more" when it comes to RVs. Want to see my "rv clothes washer?" Here she is... About Us
and it's made in the USA, (Nampa, ID) 20 plunges and most clothes are clean. I use it at home sometimes too.

Welcome RVM9!!!!

Inovation is the mother of creative thinking. Love the washer!

Dave
RVM1

CampDaven 04-15-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Noble (Post 1532436)
I wanna Join! I'll be RVM10 (into double numbers). We are 1/2 timers. 6 months out and 6 months at the S&B. We spend 5 months down south, one on the road and then return to the nest.

I'm into modifying the 5er because I have to - just have to.

Welcome to the first double gigit RVM!

Dave
RVM1

Papawto5 04-15-2013 07:19 PM

RVM5 checking back in
 
I consider it an honor to be a RV mutant. In its finest form, being a mutant allows each of us to examine our current living status and make a conscious decision to be totally at ease with our circumstances. Satisfaction with one's final chapters in life make the entire "book" such a great read. We can wish and whine but why waste the energy doing that. Like they say, you can whine about your aches and pains in your body until you realize that many others are given a terminal diagnosis from the doctor each day of the month.

4kids 04-15-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1531883)
perhaps we should dub you Phaedrus - but only in the most positive and mutant like manner.

Funny--I tell my students it's widely recognized that you have to be a little nuts to teach middle school; and the fact that I love it makes me certifiable.

I'll accept that as a compliment (if that's how it was meant), but it feels too much like tempting fate. I'd rather just be Michelle/4kids/RVM4.

So good to meet all the self-identified mutants out there. You are the coolest people--and I'm betting the happiest, too!

Dogpatch 04-15-2013 07:33 PM

What happens if you aren't retired or a full timer? Is there a subsidiary mutant club? Honorary membership?

flaggship1 04-15-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4kids

Funny--I tell my students it's widely recognized that you have to be a little nuts to teach middle school; and the fact that I love it makes me certifiable.

I'll accept that as a compliment (if that's how it was meant), but it feels too much like tempting fate. I'd rather just be Michelle/4kids/RVM4.

So good to meet all the self-identified mutants out there. You are the coolest people--and I'm betting the happiest, too!

So ya did read it! And yes it was a compliment - as that book was among the many that lead me down the trail to RV Mutant land. I wanted to be a writer and maybe I will someday. The writing style of that book and the BMW, the ride, the crazies was something new to me. It opened my thinking about things in a different way. It was captivating in a strange way. Of course that was a long time ago. So, I'll be Phaedrus today and you are of course, Michelle/4kids/RVM4. :D

This is turning out to be a great gathering of mutants. Any other RVMs out there?
RVM2
Steve and Annie

flaggship1 04-15-2013 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogpatch
What happens if you aren't retired or a full timer? Is there a subsidiary mutant club? Honorary membership?

I'm not retired or full time yet. RVMs are happy with what they have, love the RV life, and see things for what they are. They don't miss what they don't have and the journey is their destination. You are of course qualified. Anyone that will fly 2,000 miles to pick up a motorhome and turn around and drive back in two and half days of 50 mph wind is RVM material. Next number is 12 and yours for the taking. :D

flaggship1 04-15-2013 08:03 PM

Papato5 - you said a mouthful. And there is no reason for putting off adapting (mutating) to that kind of outlook and yet we do. In the scheme of things, we are gone in the blink of an eye, so why not be thankful and happy!!

CampDaven 04-15-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogpatch (Post 1532899)
What happens if you aren't retired or a full timer? Is there a subsidiary mutant club? Honorary membership?

How you RV does not matter.
I diagnose you with probable high RVM tendency.
There are RVMs. Others are simply not.
You in?

Dave

flaggship1 04-15-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CampDaven

How you RV does not matter.
I diagnose you with probable high RVM tendency.
There are RVMs. Others are simply not.
You in?

Dave

Hey look what the cat drug in. :D. RVM1 is in the coach.

CampDaven 04-15-2013 08:35 PM

Michelle/4kids/RVM4 and RVM2,

I assume this means Phaedrus by Plato.
Plato would have been a fine RVM

flaggship1 04-15-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CampDaven
Michelle/4kids/RVM4 and RVM2,

I assume this means Phaedrus by Plato.
Plato would have been a fine RVM

Sort of - and since I sort of brought it up - let RVM4 off the hook. In Zen and the Art of Motorcycle maintenance - the author / narrator referred to his past self as Phaedrus - while he was sort of losing grip on his present self. It was a reference to the discussion / Plato.

The book basically said life is what ya make it - Motorcycle maintenance can be a tedious bore or great fun depending on your attitude. A RV Mutant for sure.

CampDaven 04-15-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1533019)

Sort of - and since I sort of brought it up - let RVM4 off the hook. In Zen and the Art of Motorcycle maintenance - the author / narrator referred to his past self as Phaedrus - while he was sort of losing grip on his present self. It was a reference to the discussion / Plato.

The book basically said life is what ya make it - Motorcycle maintenance can be a tedious bore or great fun depending on your attitude. A RV Mutant for sure.

You will retire in a little over a year. When you do, stretch your legs a while. Then, if you do not write a book, RVM2, it could be considered a crime against humanity.

You have the bridge, #2. Of that there is no doubt.

\\_//_/
(Get it?)

RVM1 out

Dogpatch 04-15-2013 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1532942)
I'm not retired or full time yet. RVMs are happy with what they have, love the RV life, and see things for what they are. They don't miss what they don't have and the journey is their destination. You are of course qualified. Anyone that will fly 2,000 miles to pick up a motorhome and turn around and drive back in two and half days of 50 mph wind is RVM material. Next number is 12 and yours for the taking. :D

Taken then! Happy to join!

RVM12 out!

CampDaven 04-16-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogpatch (Post 1533080)

Taken then! Happy to join!

RVM12 out!

Welcome dogpatch!
An even dozen. Who will make it a baker's dozen?

flaggship1 04-16-2013 04:54 PM

RVM1 - just thought of something we don't have and don't need. A multi disk CD/DVD player. Unless ya count the fact that I have 3 singles - one in the dash - one in the main TV compartment and one outside.

The RVM is happy with what the have, and sometimes that's too much. :D RVM2 out.

CampDaven 04-16-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1533855)
RVM1 - just thought of something we don't have and don't need. A multi disk CD/DVD player. Unless ya count the fact that I have 3 singles - one in the dash - one in the main TV compartment and one outside.

The RVM is happy with what the have, and sometimes that's too much. :D RVM2 out.

I have the same set up, RVM2.

We use the dash one rarely. Too often enjoying the scenery too much for having competing noise.

Have used the outdoor one once for music, just to make sure it worked. Have watched a few movies out there, though.

The main unit gets more movie use than music, but actually not much use overall. We get more use out of plugging the iPhone in for tunes. But not more than 10 hours in the last year. Too freaking busy being campers!

In the last 18 months, the folks that made multi disk CD/DVD changers worth the extra change had kids along.

So, yes! Very happy with what we have. If any of them fail we may not know it for weeks! As it goes, hardly need what we have.

RVM1 out

jdoc 04-16-2013 06:49 PM

RVM1 & RVM2, RVM3 has the cd/dvd for use in the coach and the in dash cd but, I can count on 1 hand the number of times the cd/dvd player has been used and, the in dash cd player has never been used. Don't have the outside system. Don't want it though. Just something else to not work right at some point in time. Like RVM1 said to busy lookin at the country side as we go to our destination and then to busy doin things at our destination to do anything else.

Jerry RVM3

flaggship1 04-16-2013 07:32 PM

RVM4 hit the nail on the head early on with the Zen and the Art of RVing (Motorcycle Maintenance) as sounding a little like RVM thinking. Just chased down this quote from the book.

“Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive.”

I gotta say - this winter I really did not enjoy the down time and took several rides to nowhere just to get behind the wheel. The travel or journey was the entire destination. Miles for the sake of putting them on and feeling the road beneath me. If you ever feel that way or do that, you might be an RV Mutant.

Davdeb1 04-16-2013 08:24 PM

I have heat pumps, awnings, exhaust brake and an ice maker. I don't have any of those other things and my unit is 13 years old, can I join the club? Oh I almost forgot, I have the best wife in the world who will be happy with anything!

flaggship1 04-16-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davdeb1
I have heat pumps, awnings, exhaust brake and an ice maker. I don't have any of those other things and my unit is 13 years old, can I join the club? Oh I almost forgot, I have the best wife in the world who will be happy with anything!

But does she enjoy laughing at you and keep ya in line? :D. Of course you're in. Been wondering when you'd pull into camp. You're officially RVM13 - the bakers dozen! Don't forget - right at the rainbow.

Davdeb1 04-16-2013 08:29 PM

OK 13, Its been my lucky number all my life!

SylviaCub 04-16-2013 11:21 PM

I think we need t-shirts.

RV Mutants "untie"

CampDaven 04-17-2013 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davdeb1 (Post 1534112)
OK 13, Its been my lucky number all my life!

Welcome to Lucky 13!
13 is the 6th prime number.
I grew up on 13th Avenue.
And 13 colonies made the US.

Dogpatch 04-17-2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SylviaCub (Post 1534255)
I think we need t-shirts.

RV Mutants "untie"

I think you meant "Unite"

Unless you were referring to untying tie-dyed T-shirts! LOL

RVM12

CampDaven 04-17-2013 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SylviaCub (Post 1534255)
I think we need t-shirts.

RV Mutants "untie"

Neat idea RVM9.
T-shirts
Bumper stickers
Hats

The possibilities are endless!

Dogpatch 04-17-2013 06:45 AM

Unfortunately, as much as I like the idea of being happy with "status quo" and being "zen-like", I just picked up our new to us coach a week ago and many things need updating. Need new TV's and such but stop at adding them to the outside. We like watching a movie before bed. Outside is for enjoying surroundings, although we picked up a set of Satellite speakers with Blu tooth for listening to iPod when having some relaxing wobbly-pops. Once a few mods completed, Zen state will be achieved.

RVM12

flaggship1 04-17-2013 07:31 AM

RVM12 - Les - no single book or philosophy can adequately capture the spirit of the RV Mutant! I have been making many upgrades and improvements myself. So how does this square with don't miss what I don't have aspect of being an RVM? Drawing from that motorcycle zen book again - which will eventually fade from our Mutant thread, there is this.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”

Some of us are "right" with no TV - some with very big ones. Others can only pass the test with HD. What's important is that your rig is a source of pleasure to you. Even in the repair and replace mode, happiness in the doing and then enjoying the results are the journey!

Any other ideas on what makes a RVM? Are you an RVM too? If so, take RVM14 and join in the discussion.

Dogpatch 04-17-2013 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1534461)
RVM12 - Les - no single book or philosophy can adequately capture the spirit of the RV Mutant! I have been making many upgrades and improvements myself. So how does this square with don't miss what I don't have aspect of being an RVM? Drawing from that motorcycle zen book again - which will eventually fade from our Mutant thread, there is this.

“The test of the machine is the satisfaction it gives you. There isn't any other test. If the machine produces tranquility it's right. If it disturbs you it's wrong until either the machine or your mind is changed.”

Some of us are "right" with no TV - some with very big ones. Others can only pass the test with HD. What's important is that your rig is a source of pleasure to you. Even in the repair and replace mode, happiness in the doing and then enjoying the results are the journey!

Any other ideas on what makes a RVM? Are you an RVM too? If so, take RVM14 and join in the discussion.

Then I was already there 17 years ago when I rented my first Class A and drove the big windshield down the road. I was hooked. I try to find excuses to even take mine for a drive. Need a part, need the coach to match it. My wife still calls BS to that one LOL. My Zen is in the driving and not so much the destination. I like everything from the looking for the next coach, negotiating, to fixing and updating.

My wife actually calls me an "RV Nazi".

I truly am a RV Mutant I guess.

Wayne M 04-17-2013 08:04 AM

How can I miss something if I have never had it?

I do have a confession. I miss all my friends who live in my computer.

xxoo

flaggship1 04-17-2013 08:11 AM

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How can I miss something if I have never had it?

I do have a confession. I miss all my friends who live in my computer.

xxoo

Or as the song says - how can I miss you if you won't go away. Lol. Wayne - you may not know it yet, but you are an RVM. Have you poked air holes in your computer so your friends and breath?

Davdeb1 04-17-2013 12:51 PM

Funny thing about this, I really don't care to camp, or I'm not a camper. I just want to travel, ear trucker food sometimes, I love truck stops. I just want to travel, no campfires for me. I want to golf, read, go to movies, I just want to do it in different locations.

Being totally free and self sufficient is zen for me!

flaggship1 04-17-2013 01:21 PM

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Funny thing about this, I really don't care to camp, or I'm not a camper. I just want to travel, ear trucker food sometimes, I love truck stops. I just want to travel, no campfires for me. I want to golf, read, go to movies, I just want to do it in different locations.

Being totally free and self sufficient is zen for me!

“Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive” ZAMM

Freedom is at the heart of our adventure too. I'm with ya there and I'm with RVM1 on being where the cold and heat aren't. 1 more winter for us and then..... right turn at the rainbow!
RVM2

Dick Noble 04-17-2013 01:37 PM

RVM10 here. I like the Zen thing but I'm really into "Gestalt Banjo-Vol. 1" There is no Vol. 2. Paul Hawthorne died before he could write it. Vol. 1 has on its front the picture by Leonardo da Vinci of God's hand passing life to Adam's hand. God has on banjo picks.

CampDaven 04-17-2013 01:38 PM

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“Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive” ZAMM

Freedom is at the heart of our adventure too. I'm with ya there and I'm with RVM1 on being where the cold and heat aren't. 1 more winter for us and then..... right turn at the rainbow!
RVM2

Well, RVM2, almost 90 here in Hot Springs! But, 50's are on the way (yay!). Every road has a bump.

Today, nothing, nothing at all! We decided that "nothing" was a very good thing. As in not leaving camp. That is freedom too, right?

flaggship1 04-17-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Noble
RVM10 here. I like the Zen thing but I'm really into "Gestalt Banjo-Vol. 1" There is no Vol. 2. Paul Hawthorne died before he could write it. Vol. 1 has on its front the picture by Leonardo da Vinci of God's hand passing life to Adam's hand. God has on banjo picks.

Where's the YouTube link? Banjo and flat-picking go together like a RVs and good times. Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (Dirt Band) will be playing Dallas in a couple weeks. John Hartford was another favorite - so many great banjo players - Jerry Garcia even. Gestalt - Zen - bluegrass. I think they misspelled banjo. S/b BanJoY.

flaggship1 04-17-2013 01:49 PM

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Well, RVM2, almost 90 here in Hot Springs! But, 50's are on the way (yay!). Every road has a bump.

Today, nothing, nothing at all! We decided that "nothing" was a very good thing. As in not leaving camp. That is freedom too, right?

RVM1 is sitting on the rainbow. What isn't freedom there? Try to answer that with one hand clapping. The RV Mutant does not envy his mutant brother, but it isn't easy. :D

flaggship1 04-17-2013 02:08 PM

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RVM10 here. I like the Zen thing but I'm really into "Gestalt Banjo-Vol. 1" There is no Vol. 2. Paul Hawthorne died before he could write it. Vol. 1 has on its front the picture by Leonardo da Vinci of God's hand passing life to Adam's hand. God has on banjo picks.

RVM10 - looked into this. See now that it's a book - and could not locate actual finger / claw picking by PH - but did find the cover art. Pretty cool.

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CampDaven 04-17-2013 02:39 PM

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RVM1 is sitting on the rainbow. What isn't freedom there? Try to answer that with one hand clapping. The RV Mutant does not envy his mutant brother, but it isn't easy. :D

Ya got me!

Did you know I dont have a central vac system either? More Mutant every day!

flaggship1 04-17-2013 02:49 PM

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Ya got me!

Did you know I dont have a central vac system either? More Mutant every day!

I have one - but it came with it. But it wasn't on the list of must haves - just was.

flaggship1 04-17-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Noble
RVM10 here. I like the Zen thing but I'm really into "Gestalt Banjo-Vol. 1" There is no Vol. 2. Paul Hawthorne died before he could write it. Vol. 1 has on its front the picture by Leonardo da Vinci of God's hand passing life to Adam's hand. God has on banjo picks.

Ok RVM10. I just cruised through the forum Banjo Hangout and see that the book is out of print and anyone who has one won't let it out of their sight. So it falls on you to share the Gestalt of RVMs by way of banjo analogy. I'm actually kind of bummed - but have something to watch for so yin is yanged. :D

4kids 04-17-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CampDaven (Post 1534380)

Welcome to Lucky 13!
13 is the 6th prime number.
I grew up on 13th Avenue.
And 13 colonies made the US.

And you said your RV is 13 yrs old. It was destined.

Rvm4

Davdeb1 04-17-2013 07:41 PM

Yes its a good thing this thread didn't start last year when it was only 12.
Also, are you a RV mutant if you watch Duck Dynasty?

flaggship1 04-17-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Davdeb1
Yes its a good thing this thread didn't start last year when it was only 12.
Also, are you a RV mutant if you watch Duck Dynasty?

Well they do have an RV now don't they. :D

Wayne M 04-17-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1534512)
Or as the song says - how can I miss you if you won't go away. Lol. Wayne - you may not know it yet, but you are an RVM. Have you poked air holes in your computer so your friends and breath?

Thar R rots of tings I don't have. No roof top AC, no TPMS, no tile floors. A scratched up basement door I will not get fixed. no door handle lights, and I don't miss any of them. (I do have basement air though)

Nope, no holes in the computer, but the next time I load the Xd.40 there may be some extra breathin' space for the little people in the computer. I'll try not to hit anyone.

flaggship1 04-17-2013 07:58 PM

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Thar R rots of tings I don't have. No roof top AC, no TPMS, no tile floors. A scratched up basement door I will not get fixed. no door handle lights, and I don't miss any of them. (I do have basement air though)

Nope, no holes in the computer, but the next time I load the Xd.40 there may be some extra breathin' space for the little people in the computer. I'll try not to hit anyone.

That makes you RVM14 Wayne and proud to have ya among us!

4kids 04-17-2013 08:10 PM

Don't know much about banjos, but I would also nominate the Traveling Wilburys as RVM-type musicians. Anybody familiar with them?

flaggship1 04-17-2013 08:22 PM

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Don't know much about banjos, but I would also nominate the Traveling Wilburys as RVM-type musicians. Anybody familiar with them?

A lineup fit for Kings and RVM alike. How can ya go wrong with Roy Orbison - Tom Petty - Bob Dylan and the rest. A superband and great tunes. Way astray from what others were doing or they had done - they get my vote.

SylviaCub 04-17-2013 11:39 PM

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I think you meant "Unite"

Unless you were referring to untying tie-dyed T-shirts! LOL

RVM12

Well, you ALMOST got the joke. Untie is a dyslexic version of Unite.... we are mutants after all... So UNTIE seemed appropriate to me. ;)

CampDaven 04-18-2013 06:07 AM

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Don't know much about banjos, but I would also nominate the Traveling Wilburys as RVM-type musicians. Anybody familiar with them?

I'm with you on that.
They didn't make enough music together to satisfy my hunger for it.
Sadly, 2 of them have passed on.

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Davdeb1 04-18-2013 06:14 AM

But they never toured or traveled.

flaggship1 04-18-2013 06:30 AM

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But they never toured or traveled.

They were probably too busy touring and traveling. :D. Glad they slowed down enough for two bites at the apple and they did show up on late night tv a time our two. It's amazing that such big names managed to do this at all. I'll bet they had a blast together. Almost as much fun as an RVM rally will be. Wonder if we have any musicians among the mutants other than RVM10 and the banjo?

Dogpatch 04-18-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SylviaCub (Post 1535493)
Well, you ALMOST got the joke. Untie is a dyslexic version of Unite.... we are mutants after all... So UNTIE seemed appropriate to me. ;)

LOL (you missed that I intentionally spelled it backwards for LOL)

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They were probably too busy touring and traveling. :D. Glad they slowed down enough for two bites at the apple and they did show up on late night tv a time our two. It's amazing that such big names managed to do this at all. I'll bet they had a blast together. Almost as much fun as an RVM rally will be. Wonder if we have any musicians among the mutants other than RVM10 and the banjo?

I can play a MEAN set of spoons!

flaggship1 04-18-2013 06:57 AM

I believe some RVMs may carry a washboard or two.

Dogpatch 04-18-2013 07:09 AM

My Dad played the Banjo and my Mom played Piano. They played in a band at weddings almost every weekend. I don't have any musical attributes, but can do stained glass, water color painting and am a published poet.

My daughter, however, played violin and now guitar. Still in the genes I guess.

flaggship1 04-18-2013 07:54 AM

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My Dad played the Banjo and my Mom played Piano. They played in a band at weddings almost every weekend. I don't have any musical attributes, but can do stained glass, water color painting and am a published poet.

My daughter, however, played violin and now guitar. Still in the genes I guess.

Coolness! Dual pane stained glass RV windows. From your thread on your not-so-smart wheel - maybe apply your painting skills with day-glow paint. :D

Dogpatch 04-18-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1535699)
Coolness! Dual pane stained glass RV windows. From your thread on your not-so-smart wheel - maybe apply your painting skills with day-glow paint. :D

Probably easier to carry a flashlight or eat more carrots!

flaggship1 04-18-2013 08:38 AM

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Probably easier to carry a flashlight or eat more carrots!

Miners helmet! As for the smart wheel - don't have it and don't miss it. Was on the nice to have list - not the must have. When you think about it - 4 wires vs two to each of the wheel controls is 2X potential problems for each feature. Would never use the radio control - so there's that.

Wayne M 04-18-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1535736)
Miners helmet! As for the smart wheel - don't have it and don't miss it. Was on the nice to have list - not the must have. When you think about it - 4 wires vs two to each of the wheel controls is 2X potential problems for each feature. Would never use the radio control - so there's that.

Nope! Thought about it, just about 5 seconds or so. Don't need it.

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They were probably too busy touring and traveling. :D. Glad they slowed down enough for two bites at the apple and they did show up on late night tv a time our two. It's amazing that such big names managed to do this at all. I'll bet they had a blast together. Almost as much fun as an RVM rally will be. Wonder if we have any musicians among the mutants other than RVM10 and the banjo?

I can play the radio!

Let's see, a major chord is made up of the 1st, 3rd, and 5th notes. To make it a minor chord, just lower the 3rd 1/2 step. Lower the 3rd, 5th, 1/2 step and lower the 7th a step for a diminished 7th chord. It's been a long, long time.

Oops, I'll play the radio.

flaggship1 04-18-2013 09:54 AM

Wayne - with the 1 / 3 / 5 progression and 7th to turn it around ya got the blues. The RVM Blues.

I'm sure resident mutant poet dogpatch can get some lyrics pulled together.

Dick Noble 04-18-2013 09:58 AM

RVM10 to flaggship1 - I'd make you a copy of "Gestalt Banjo" but I'm not sure about the copyright legality. If the author dies is the copyright still in effect? This booklet was published in 1998.

I'm also trying to get into Hawaiian Slack Key Guitar. If anyone wants to sample this style - got to www.youtube.com and search for Fran Guidry.

Had my first coaching session (not lesson) last week. It is fun to try to learn this method.

For the RVM (music) groupies - Do not think "I must practice. Think instead I want to practice- I will have fun and enjoy it." That's Gestalt, grasshopper.

Wayne M 04-18-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by flaggship1 (Post 1535804)
Wayne - with the 1 / 3 / 5 progression and 7th to turn it around ya got the blues. The RVM Blues.

I'm sure resident mutant poet dogpatch can get some lyrics pulled together.

Start with the "C", 1, 3, 5, 6th and 1/2 step 7th down, then and back down ending on E (piano mode) , then go with the "F" same progression, then "C" over again, Then D, E, F, F#, G, F, E, D, C. Repeat sequences as necessary.

"Down to get you in a taxi honey!"

Dick Noble 04-18-2013 10:10 AM

Wayne M - Slack Key uses parallel 3rds and parallel 6ths. I'm trying to figure out what those are. Coach has me doing major scales on G, B, and D strings.

For everyone else, "normal" tuning for a guitar is EADGBE. There are over 47 different tunings for slack key but the most used is "Taro Patch" or open G = DGDGB (lowest to highest pitch). So we lower or slack off three strings.

I'm still working the banjo. Trying to learn "Foggy Mountain Breakdown". I'm also looking at a new banjo. It is made from carbon fiber and should stand up to the rigors of RV travel. For the guitar, I've purchased a Traveler MKII. It is smaller but the fret board is standard and it is a solid body so it too will be better for RVing.

flaggship1 04-18-2013 10:29 AM

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Over the years I divested of my guitars and am down to a relatively new / inexpensive one that will be sold before full time. It's an ibanez electric. Attachment 37128

I am not musically inclined but have always loved to practice / and try. Will be looking for a beater / box acoustic of some kind. May visit pawn shops as we cross the country in search of a mobile 6 string.

RVM10 - I think copyright survives. I always thought Steve Martin or Jerry Van Dyke could put together a good banjo tutorial. Btw - ever seen one of these?
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Wayne M 04-18-2013 10:48 AM

Don't get me talking about guitars, as I don't know a darn thing about them. However, I have passed this thread link on to my son. His Taylor Made cost more than I'd ever want to put into a musical instrument.

Now, for background: I have not, repeat not, played for many, many years.

In high school I had my own 3 piece, sometimes four band. I was the accordion player. We play weddings and other gigs. Polka's were the big thing, but I'm not a Lawrence Welk type player - never that good. Back in the late 50's, $10 an hour was a pretty decent wage. When I joined the military I carried my accordion with me. In the Mohave desert, the wax holding the reeds melted and deteriorated. i sort of just stopped playing. That accordion was $750 back in the 50's, mother of pearl, engraved with my name. I still have it. Hmmm! Wonder if it can be fixed.

So, my music with triads and such are all keyboard. But my son can give you a run for your money on the guitar.

Happy trails.

flaggship1 04-18-2013 10:59 AM

Apparently RVMs are a well read, music loving, instrument playing, bunch who don't use the radio too often.

So - we're up to offering RVM15 to anyone who doesn't miss what they don't have, make the journey the destination etc. R u an RV Mutant?

CampDaven 04-18-2013 11:14 AM

I had an R&R band all thru high school.
Played lead axe (guitar).
Beatles, Stones, The Animals, etc. Did some fine blues too.
Had a tight sound.
It was all about the music. Well...
attracting the ladies was a nice bi-product.
Arthritis stopped my riffs when I was 17.
Can still strum, if somebody loans me an axe.


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