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whitebear47 09-28-2013 02:36 PM

Ideas on a front windshield sunshade
 
I think I want to put some kind of front sunshade on the coach for this winters trip south. Any ideas as to which one, and are they worth it. I've seen all the adds, but don't know which one to go with.

jerichorick 09-28-2013 02:54 PM

We have the MCD night and solar shade set on our coach and like them. They are 12V powered and have a feature that is associated with the ignition that prevents them from blocking your view when driving and letting them down. I know they are pricey but worth it to me. Mine came with my coach. Would put them in now that I know how good they are.

DSL417 09-28-2013 03:01 PM

Entegras have day and night MCDs in front, as delivered, and as OP is posting this on the Entegra thread, I am assuming he is referring to external, as the internal shades still allow for heat build up in the front of the coach.

I'm interested in the responses, as it is expensive, and I don't like snaps.

brobox 09-28-2013 03:07 PM

I have the Prompt Sunscreens and will be keeping mine for the new MH. They go on in just a minute with suctions cups, no snaps, clips or ladder needed to install. I found I use them a lot more even on quick stops as they are so easy to install. They sure help with keeping the radiant heat from the windshied out of the MH. Eight years old and still look new.
https://www.rvsunscreen.com/htsunscreens.php
Thankfully the Travel Supreme and Entegra are the same size windows, mine will still work.

calico 09-28-2013 03:08 PM

Home Depot sells lengths of shade cloth, but I think it's thin, would like something with more weight.

sdennislee 09-28-2013 03:10 PM

Very good product here. Installs outside so it prevents the heat from building up in the windshield. Inside shades are not as effective as outside shades.

Easy to put up and take down.

Home

az bound 09-28-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DSL417 (Post 1746199)
Entegras have day and night MCDs in front, as delivered, and as OP is posting this on the Entegra thread, I am assuming he is referring to external, as the internal shades still allow for heat build up in the front of the coach.

I'm interested in the responses, as it is expensive, and I don't like snaps.

DW and I made our own exterior shade screens that are held in place with magnets. We were sent a quote from Magna Shade of over $800. for just the windshield, driver and passenger windows.
We were able to purchase the materials to do those and three other windows for less than $300.
We really like the magnet set up, no holes, no ladder, no snaps. I use an old Q- stick to push them in place.
I only wish we had taken pictures as we were doing the project. :facepalm:

Steve N Sal 09-28-2013 03:41 PM

Depending on where you're going for the winter you may find a local vendor in your area that can come right to your site and make them. We had ours made in FL right in our park. Just a thought.

HDrider 09-28-2013 04:18 PM

We have a Magna Shade on our Tiffin and will certainly do the same on our Entegra when it is delivered.
We did a similar thing for tire covers and might do the same on the Entegra as well. I should say same fabric but they snap on and I'm not a big fan of snaps. At least on the wheels they are easy to get to. But for the windshield the Magna Shade is a piece of cake to put up and down.
We do need to sell ours from the Tiffin if you happen to hear of anyone,,, just sayin LOL!!! It won't fit the Entegra.

whitebear47 09-28-2013 07:36 PM

ideas on a front windshield sunshade
 
Thanks a lot folks for your information.

Mike and Rhonda
2013 Entegra Anthem 44 DLQ

hdgoldie 09-28-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HDrider (Post 1746264)
We have a Magna Shade on our Tiffin and will certainly do the same on our Entegra when it is delivered.
We did a similar thing for tire covers and might do the same on the Entegra as well. I should say same fabric but they snap on and I'm not a big fan of snaps. At least on the wheels they are easy to get to. But for the windshield the Magna Shade is a piece of cake to put up and down.
We do need to sell ours from the Tiffin if you happen to hear of anyone,,, just sayin LOL!!! It won't fit the Entegra.

I looked at the pictures on the Magna site and they look interesting but, if I read correctly, you have a series of magnets mounted inside for the shades. How do those look? Do you happen to have any pictures?

HDrider 09-29-2013 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hdgoldie (Post 1746563)
I looked at the pictures on the Magna site and they look interesting but, if I read correctly, you have a series of magnets mounted inside for the shades. How do those look? Do you happen to have any pictures?

I don't have any pictures from the inside. And I guess every coach has different stuff around the inside windshield. I know on our Tiffin you don't see the magnets if just looking out the from back in the living area. And while driving they certainly are never in view. Not that you can't look for them and see them but they are tucked behind the overhead and blinds in the upper area and along the side they are behind or right by the frame on either side of the windshield. None are along the bottom.
We are getting ready to travel to a new area today so if I think of it while setting up I will get a couple pictures.
Now that a couple weeks have passed since being in the Entegra I can't remember just what it is like by the front window supports on either side.
We didn't do the Magna Shades on the side windows. We were more concerned about the windshield where most of the heat would be generated.

jerichorick 09-29-2013 04:17 AM

We had the external sun screen on our last coach. We found that the cabin area got much warmer then as compared to now with the MCD set. Our coach has them throughout but only the windshield is powered. The solar shade is very effective and if the heat is very intense the night shade blocks even more heat.

In the last coach my DW bought a set of curtains to block off the drivers area from the heat of TX. That worked fine. A thick rod was placed on top of the left and right slide trim, bridging the room, and the curtains hung from it. We just packed it to travel and popped it back up when the slides were deployed. Very effective.

This new to us coach has no window awnings or front windshield and side curtain screens as our '05 Vectra did. The MCD system keeps us comfortable much more so than the awnings, shades and screens did in the Vectra. I know improved insulation has something to do with all of this, true. But in the drivers area the MCD system is much more efficient. Other brands that have the same concept probably are just as effective. I can only address what we have and had.

Statgeek 09-29-2013 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brobox (Post 1746205)
I have the Prompt Sunscreens and will be keeping mine for the new MH. They go on in just a minute with suctions cups, no snaps, clips or ladder needed to install. I found I use them a lot more even on quick stops as they are so easy to install. They sure help with keeping the radiant heat from the windshied out of the MH. Eight years old and still look new. https://www.rvsunscreen.com/htsunscreens.php Thankfully the Travel Supreme and Entegra are the same size windows, mine will still work.

I also purchased and use PromptRv, started with one coach and was able to modify them (replace straps with suction cups) for our current coach. Living in Texas, heat is an obvious issue. Having an OUTSIDE sunscreen is a serious advantage. Don't be fooled into thinking that the inside shades do the same thing. Without our outside sunscreen we would not be able to camp in the hotter months of Texas, but we were able to be comfortable all summer long (weekends) with it.

Also a necessity--a quiet tower fan to move the air around. AC thermostats are more effective if there is air current.

brobox 09-29-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Statgeek (Post 1746898)
I also purchased and use PromptRv, started with one coach and was able to modify them (replace straps with suction cups) for our current coach. Living in Texas, heat is an obvious issue. Having an OUTSIDE sunscreen is a serious advantage. Don't be fooled into thinking that the inside shades do the same thing. Without our outside sunscreen we would not be able to camp in the hotter months of Texas, but we were able to be comfortable all summer long (weekends) with it.

Also a necessity--a quiet tower fan to move the air around. AC thermostats are more effective if there is air current.

I need to do a color change on mine. Did you happen to change your color? I am shopping for a spray dye now and will be calling the material supplier and see if they know of one that works. The manufacture did not.

We also use a "wisper quite fan" and it does make a difference. Nice that the new Anthem will have a ceiling fan to help move the air.

mel s 09-29-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jerichorick (Post 1746193)
We have the MCD night and solar shade set on our coach and like them. They are 12V powered and have a feature that is associated with the ignition that prevents them from blocking your view when driving and letting them down. I know they are pricey but worth it to me. Mine came with my coach. Would put them in now that I know how good they are.

jerichorick
I have a 8' MCD, (light blocking only), power shade, which completely blocks all light when camping, doubles as an adjustable visor when driving and is one of the best, most useful, mods I have made.
Mine was a take out from an Allegro coach who's owner put in a MCD night and solar shade set, (I paid $80 at a Tiffin/Allegro RV dealer).
Mel
'96 Safari

HDrider 09-29-2013 12:40 PM

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OK,,, I have never uploaded pictures to iRV2 so I hope it worked.

HDrider 09-29-2013 12:43 PM

I can try another but you can see one magnet if you look in the bottom left in the picture looking out but as you can see you don't really notice them on the Tiffin anyway. All the ones up top are completely hidden.

Statgeek 09-29-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brobox (Post 1747094)
I need to do a color change on mine. Did you happen to change your color? I am shopping for a spray dye now and will be calling the material supplier and see if they know of one that works. The manufacture did not. We also use a "wisper quite fan" and it does make a difference. Nice that the new Anthem will have a ceiling fan to help move the air.

No, sorry, I know nothing of how to change the color. Sorry!

hdgoldie 09-30-2013 05:42 AM

Wow - much less obtrusive than I was picturing. Thank you.

HDrider 09-30-2013 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hdgoldie (Post 1748230)
Wow - much less obtrusive than I was picturing. Thank you.

That picture from the inside was taken without the shade on place. I was just trying to show the magnets.
I took the picture of the outside with the shade in place before we hit the road and just have not put it back up.
Would you like a picture with it in place from the inside?

hdgoldie 09-30-2013 05:56 AM

That would be great! Thank you.

etcmss 09-30-2013 06:41 AM

windshield shade
 
on our past "A" (a Damon Tuscany) we had a Magnashade. it may work to reduce sun effects but the negatives I have are it comes loose too easily.
on several occasions it was on the ground after a wind event.
the magnets came loose in the Washington park last year and beat the windshield to death and broke it.
i'm now certain there are other cheaper products to choose from than this one. not a fan any more after my experience
Gary

HDrider 09-30-2013 08:15 AM

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Here is roughly the same shot with the shade in place. We have been using ours on a regular basis since we hit the road a year ago and we did have in blow loose one time while 60 mph winds hit us from the side for a good part of a afternoon but that was the only time.
Nothing is perfect.

Statgeek 09-30-2013 08:32 AM

We actually PREFER looking through the window with the shade in place. You can see clearly out, but you get privacy during the day--people cannot see in. The table is turned at night though--with inside lights on people can see you but you can't see them. Good to know when you are changing clothes!! ha!!

jerichorick 10-02-2013 03:09 PM

Sorry about the first picture not being titled. That is the MCD shade up. Because of the plants I can't bring the shade all the way down.

jerichorick 10-02-2013 03:11 PM

And here is the night shade. I still am having trouble posting pictures. I hope they are showing. And multiple pictures are a real mystery to me.

wmpbauer 10-02-2013 08:27 PM

I have snaps.
I get out my ladder. (Only takes a moment after I made a ladder rack - see the modifications thread)
Install my snap-ons (about 5 minutes tops)
Put away my ladder (Only takes a moment)

All in under 10 minutes

@$850.00 for the whole front end at Wade RV (on the Lazy Days campus in Tampa)

I'm happy.

jerichorick 10-03-2013 03:24 AM

Doing the ladder trick is not always that easy. I did it on my last coach for several years. Snap sun screens on the door, windshield and drivers side window. In wind or uneven ground it was not fun. Here is the best way I can show you what we have now. Only the windshield is motorized.
Windshield/Cockpit American Duo

The final choice is yours. Having done it both ways, simple is better for me.

Rick

DSL417 10-03-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jerichorick (Post 1752665)
Doing the ladder trick is not always that easy. I did it on my last coach for several years. Snap sun screens on the door, windshield and drivers side window. In wind or uneven ground it was not fun. Here is the best way I can show you what we have now. Only the windshield is motorized.
Windshield/Cockpit American Duo

The final choice is yours. Having done it both ways, simple is better for me.

Rick

Rick,

With Entegras, we all have MCD electric windshield shades, both sun and night shades. The issue is that even with these high cost shades, the front interior still heats significantly because the heat is generated, and thus enters the coach between the windshield and the roll downs. In addition, you can see through these day shades at night. I don't think any are questioning your, and our approach...just looking for something that might be more efficient. JMHO

HDrider 10-03-2013 07:05 AM

My wife and I were just talking about this topic this morning.
We are very happy that our new MH will have the automatic front shades compared to the curtains we now have. And figure on those not so nice days that we will be just fine with the stock sun shade to provide that privacy we like during the day. But we also know how well stopping the sun from coming in BEFORE it heats up the windshield that we will certainly buy the Magna Shade again. It works for us,, and that's just us. I don't want to get the ladder out for that reason.
But we will probably take care of wheel covers before the windshield because of the stock windshield sun shade and we feel it's important to take care of our tires the best we can.
There is no wrong way to do the windshield,, just whats best for each person.

jerichorick 10-04-2013 08:58 AM

I see your point, Dave. We have not been in TX summer heat yet with the MCD system. I can't speak of seeing through the solar shade at night because we use our night shade in populated areas. So far, with temps in the 80's, we have not found the cockpit area to be of concern. We did have a problem in the last coach with the windshield sunscreen. It got as hot as a sona. My wife came up with the idea of putting heavy curtains up suspended from a pole resting on top of the slides behind the cockpit. Worked wonders and easy to store when we closed up.

Different coaches. Different experiences. Each of us has our preferences and that is a good thing.

Blessings and happy, joyful, trails.

Rick

EDALLSAILS 10-04-2013 01:37 PM

You have 3 choices. Interior shades, exterior shades or a combination of both. We live in FLorida. even with both Airs running the MH would heat up with just interior shade or curtain. In the basement we had a set of exterior sun screens. WOW what a difference, more than 20 degrees cooler. We also have a set of those foil sunshade sold by most camping stores. I put the foil outside under the sun screen. WOW! almost 40 degrees difference. Many people make there own exterior sun screen. You can buy fabric, add snaps or magnets and it is a lot cheaper than buying units completely made. safe travels... ed

jerichorick 10-05-2013 08:27 AM

That is fantastic and a great idea. We have 3 on the roof. If they can't carry the hot weather, when and if we find ourselves in it, I will definitely consider this system. Thanks for sharing this great info.

CJBROWN 04-09-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by az bound (Post 1746226)
DW and I made our own exterior shade screens that are held in place with magnets. We were sent a quote from Magna Shade of over $800. for just the windshield, driver and passenger windows.
We were able to purchase the materials to do those and three other windows for less than $300.
We really like the magnet set up, no holes, no ladder, no snaps. I use an old Q- stick to push them in place.
I only wish we had taken pictures as we were doing the project. :facepalm:


Sorry...old thread.
I just got quoted over $500 for a magna-shade and also found the same fabric they use here for about $35 - enough to do my windshield:
TextileneŽ 90 :: Solar Screen & Roller Shade Fabric :: Arizona Sun Supply

I'm pretty good at industrial sewing so I can add edge binding and magnet pockets.

I was wondering where self-adhesive magnets might be found.

Yeah, my brother-in-law is a entegra owner so he didn't mind paying over a grand for all his front windows. If I can do it for under $100 I'll be delighted.

Statgeek 04-09-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CJBROWN (Post 2003643)
Sorry...old thread. I just got quoted over $500 for a magna-shade and also found the same fabric they use here for about $35 - enough to do my windshield: TextileneŽ 90 :: Solar Screen & Roller Shade Fabric :: Arizona Sun Supply I'm pretty good at industrial sewing so I can add edge binding and magnet pockets. I was wondering where self-adhesive magnets might be found. Yeah, my brother-in-law is a entegra owner so he didn't mind paying over a grand for all his front windows. If I can do it for under $100 I'll be delighted.

If you search Amazon of EBay you will find magnets. You need to include the words "rare earth magnets" in your search To get ones strong enough for this. They are pricey too, but trust me, you need the strongest you can find unless you plan on using MANY magnets around the perimeter of each screen. My friend did this and it worked great, but they did have to remove the first set of RE magnets and install even stronger ones. Good luck!

DSL417 04-09-2014 05:18 PM

I'll be interested in hearing what your final cost is, including your time in constructing and sewing. Most are not going to have a sewing machine that will handle this very heavy fabric.

CJBROWN 04-09-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DSL417 (Post 2003674)
I'll be interested in hearing what your final cost is, including your time in constructing and sewing. Most are not going to have a sewing machine that will handle this very heavy fabric.

I have made slide toppers, tarps, gear bags, sleeping bags, uphostery, motorcycle seat covers, added smiley-zippers to clear vinyl for a boat convertible top....among other things.

Wifey's sewing maching is a Swiss Bernina - will sew thru pretty much anything.

My time is free to me. For everyone else it's $95 per hour. :D

If the fabric is $32, the magnets are gonna have to be pure gold to get even close to the $500 magna-shade wants for screen shades. Just sayin'.

If I can build a boat or restore a vintage car then certainly I can make up some sun shades for the RV. :cool:

Plozano 04-09-2014 07:18 PM

U.S. PATENT #8387676. Magne - Shade.

CJBROWN 04-09-2014 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Plozano (Post 2003814)
U.S. PATENT #8387676. Magne - Shade.


Are you really trying to say that because magna-shade has a patent on their product that I cannot make a windshield screen for my motorhome?

Really? :rolleyes:

Plozano 04-09-2014 08:48 PM

You can do whatever you want to. That's exactly what the product knock-off / pirates in China / Malasia / Iran say. Intellectual property rights, trademarks, patents? Who cares? The thing about cheap knock-offs........on the surface it looks the same, however upon closer examination they are usually cheap knock-offs.

If it were your invention and you paid the $50,000+ for the patent would you feel different? Since you quoted a labor rate, is sounds as if you are intending to custom manufacture.

Use whichever shade will work best for you. Sounds like you are planning using a Magna-Shady

JohnRR 04-09-2014 09:08 PM

Mean while it would be nice to get back on topic.

CJBROWN 04-09-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Statgeek (Post 2003657)
If you search Amazon of EBay you will find magnets. You need to include the words "rare earth magnets" in your search To get ones strong enough for this. They are pricey too, but trust me, you need the strongest you can find unless you plan on using MANY magnets around the perimeter of each screen. My friend did this and it worked great, but they did have to remove the first set of RE magnets and install even stronger ones. Good luck!


Thanks! :thumb:


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