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SteveFortune 10-17-2015 07:59 PM

Are the DPF & EGR Delete Kits needed???
 
I keep hearing about the Ram 3500 up to 2012 need the DPF & EGR Delete Kits.... What about Ford And Chevy.. ...Will I need to get these after I but the truck... I seem to be leaning towards the F-350 and the Silverado 3500..... IF I will need to remove these items ... is there just certain years or just do it for what ever year i buy....Need as much info as I can posibably get....

Mr_D 10-17-2015 11:05 PM

Illegal I'm betting.

1bigmess 10-18-2015 12:02 AM

I have a Ram 2500 with DPF & EGR. no problems. If it ain't broke,...

tgdameron 10-18-2015 10:32 AM

It is illegal to remove emission equipment. We can't do it in Pima County AZ as some zip codes must emission check. People remove them to get more power and increase fuel mileage. The DPF is cleaned while driving using extra fuel dumped into the exhaust to create really high temps. Prior to 2013 those vehicles did not use Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) so one could remove the DPF, block the EGR, and reprogram the ECM using a diesel tuner. If done incorrectly you will have check engine lights on all the time.

drittal 10-18-2015 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1bigmess (Post 2788210)
I have a Ram 2500 with DPF & EGR. no problems. If it ain't broke,...

Yours is a '14 that uses DEF. The 4th gen 6.7 up to '12 used a DPF and diesel instead of DEF for regen. Mileage was not good.

My father's '12 3500 DRW with 4.10 gears averaged under 13mpg highway empty when stock. 17 after delete.

I don't know about the Ford and chevy, other than they never had the diesel regen like RAM. I do know the 6.4 Powerstroke used up to 2011 didn't get very good mileage either.

Another thing to remember is all this modern diesel emissions equipment can go bad and will more than likely need to be replaced or deleted eventually. Knowing how much it costs to delete it I don't even want to know what that bill to replace it would run.

1bigmess 10-18-2015 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drittal (Post 2788641)
Another thing to remember is all this modern diesel emissions equipment can go bad and will more than likely need to be replaced or deleted eventually. Knowing how much it costs to delete it I don't even want to know what that bill to replace it would run.

Anything can break. You didn't quote the other part of my post, which was...

If it ain't broke,...
(usually followed by)
... don't fix it.
:)

BFlinn181 10-18-2015 11:37 AM

If you plan on drag racing, off road competition, or other very HP intense uses, you could invest in the DPF and EGR delete kits. Don't try to register it in California, I don't think it's O.K. there. These kits are expensive and not sure you'll ever get your money back out in fuel savings or engine durability. The word 'need' is very open ended, don't know that you'll 'need' the modification, a lot of folks do it to show their contempt for EPA and 'govmnt' regulations.

MotorPro 10-18-2015 11:40 AM

Only if you are engineer at VW.

BFlinn181 10-18-2015 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotorPro (Post 2788741)
Only if you are engineer at VW.

VW did it by computer programming, these kits go way beyond that, they are pretty obvious when installed.

1bigmess 10-18-2015 12:27 PM

Like I said in another thread just like this one, but in a another section of the site,

If it ain't broke,...

BFlinn181 10-18-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1bigmess (Post 2788814)
Like I said in another thread just like this one, but in a another section of the site,

If it ain't broke,...

:thumb::thumb: I agree!

drittal 10-18-2015 04:14 PM

He was asking about the 6.7 up to 2012.

It may not be broke, but the emissions systems greatly reduce the fuel efficiency. clogged DPF are not uncommon on these systems and replacement is not inexpensive. a fuel mileage gain of 25-30% can be achieved.

My comment about the emissions systems eventually needing to be replaced was to show that a delete or replacement may be necessary in any event if purchasing a used vehicle with higher mileage or unknown usage.

drittal 10-18-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1bigmess (Post 2788725)
Anything can break. You didn't quote the other part of my post, which was...

If it ain't broke,...
(usually followed by)
... don't fix it.
:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1bigmess (Post 2788814)
Like I said in another thread just like this one, but in a another section of the site,

If it ain't broke,...


...actually it was this thread

1bigmess 10-18-2015 05:11 PM

And another one. I get around. :)


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