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patriot07 03-21-2017 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dexters (Post 3511141)
You need to do some research on the payload of a F150 and the math of it with a travel trailer.

Here's a hint it isn't 2,000 lbs.

He said 5k dry, which means 7k loaded. I was wondering what he put in his trailer that weighs 2,000 lbs. That's a ton of weight, literally.

patriot07 03-21-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 54Fun (Post 3511078)
Mine is a 2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost crew cab, 3.55, 4x4 with Max Tow package (rated 12,200 towing, has trans cooler, integrated brake controller, stabilizer bar, heavy duty bumper, tow/haul mode, etc)...365HP, 425 ft lbs torque. Mine is GVWR of 7000, 1482 on cargo. This truck is absolutely amazing with TONS of power (yes, I know...its not a Powerstroke diesel, but it is amazing). I've only had it less than a year, and am between the trailer I want, and mixed opinions on what it can/should be able to safely tow. As much as I'd love a new Super Duty- i just can't pull it off with a trade.

I'm getting a lot of input that if I have an anti-sway/WD hitch (willing to buy a top of the line like a ProPride or Hensley) and with the capabilities of this truck I should easily be able to pull, handle and stop an 8000lb gross weight trailer. That "this is not your half ton of 5-10 years ago". Still looking, still open...we found one we like that is 6800 dry, with only 510lb tongue weight (Mallard M32).

Thanks for everyone's input

You're going to run into payload and length issues before you run into total weight issues. The Mallard M32 is 35' long, which is a lot of trailer for a half ton with a 145" wheel base. You'd be better off in the 30'-32' range total length.

Payload will ultimately be the limiting factor with your weight. With only 1,482 lbs of payload, you'll need to find the lightest tongue weight you can. Add up whatever truck cargo, hitch weight, fuel weight, and passengers you'll be carrying and subtract that from 1,482 and that will be your allowable tongue weight. You'll probably want to stay in the 700 lbs range (maybe 600 lbs mfgr spec plus extras).

54Fun 03-21-2017 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by patriot07 (Post 3511614)
You're going to run into payload and length issues before you run into total weight issues. The Mallard M32 is 35' long, which is a lot of trailer for a half ton with a 145" wheel base. You'd be better off in the 30'-32' range total length.

Payload will ultimately be the limiting factor with your weight. With only 1,482 lbs of payload, you'll need to find the lightest tongue weight you can. Add up whatever truck cargo, hitch weight, fuel weight, and passengers you'll be carrying and subtract that from 1,482 and that will be your allowable tongue weight. You'll probably want to stay in the 700 lbs range (maybe 600 lbs mfgr spec plus extras).

Thanks. Yes, thats one of the reasons the Mallard stood out as they list it at 560lb tongue weight (6700 dry - the one we looked at was 6900) See here Not sure if they are playing game with the specs or not...

Loraura 03-21-2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jason_sos (Post 3496018)
Check out the Coachman Freedom Express 292BHDSLE. It appears to be exactly what you are looking for. My friend has this model from a few years back and it's great.



Skip the LE trim and you may have a winner. It's what we pull with a 5.7L hemi RAM 1500.

In addition to many weekend trips, I've towed it from Austin TX thru CO to Moab, UT and back with no problems and no desire to get a bigger truck. I really thought we'd get back from that long trip and start looking at 2500's but it did so well we didn't see the need to do that.

Loraura 05-22-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Loraura (Post 3512899)
Skip the LE trim and you may have a winner. It's what we pull with a 5.7L hemi RAM 1500.

In addition to many weekend trips, I've towed it from Austin TX thru CO to Moab, UT and back with no problems and no desire to get a bigger truck. I really thought we'd get back from that long trip and start looking at 2500's but it did so well we didn't see the need to do that.

Alas, the wind has finally gotten to us. We upgraded to a 2500 this weekend. I didn't feel unsafe in the 1500, per say, but there was more white knuckling than I wanted. Rear/cross winds were making me feel a little like skating, like I couldn't get enough weight on the front wheels.

I bought new LT tires, I checked and reset up my Blue Ox. Checked TT tire pressure before every trip. Nothing seemed to help much. The wind has just been crazy here lately.

I don't want to get stuck somewhere due to wind that is not dangerous with the right equipment. I don't want to have to drive home at 50 MPH if there are 25 MPH cross winds.

So.... we shall see how the new truck does in 2 weeks.

Stroker548 05-22-2017 08:06 PM

All these 1/2 tons will pull the weight. Its the length and the wind that does them in. I dont care what anyone says I would never pull something over 28 foot long with a half ton. Even if it only weighed 5k.

LA_RV_Guy 05-23-2017 05:28 PM

Things can go wrong with any RV and TV. Do the math work up and make sure you have plenty of cushion from your limits. Tow what you feel comfortable with, using COMMON SENSE! Watch this video and see what I'm saying:

https://youtu.be/kwOqARlw1EI

cmcguire48 05-23-2017 09:29 PM

F150 towing
 
I have a 24ft TT 5300 dry weight. I tow with a 2016 F150 2.7 and I have no issues other than the all aluminum truck being so light. Remember you can tow a lot more than you can haul. Payload on ford trucks goes down considerably if you have all the bells and whistles. I can't argue with the fact a 250 would be so much better but my budget will not allow that. Saying all this to say a 6000 lb trailer would be pushing it.

Big Bear Local 06-02-2017 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cmcguire48 (Post 3613284)
I have a 24ft TT 5300 dry weight. I tow with a 2016 F150 2.7 and I have no issues other than the all aluminum truck being so light. Remember you can tow a lot more than you can haul. Payload on ford trucks goes down considerably if you have all the bells and whistles. I can't argue with the fact a 250 would be so much better but my budget will not allow that. Saying all this to say a 6000 lb trailer would be pushing it.

My trailers tongue weight was 1100# with full propane and two GC batteries. Nothing else loaded. So I moved the batteries (112#) to the rear. With my Propride P3 WDH I moved 200# to the front axle and 200# to the trailer axles.
Essentially took 500# off the rear of the truck. Front wheel well within 1/2 inch from stock height. My trucks hitch is rated for 1100# with a WDH. Class IV.

I'm in the same boat you are as far as wanting a 3/4 ton.

Wireman1 06-02-2017 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LA_RV_Guy (Post 3612913)
Things can go wrong with any RV and TV. Do the math work up and make sure you have plenty of cushion from your limits. Tow what you feel comfortable with, using COMMON SENSE! Watch this video and see what I'm saying:

https://youtu.be/kwOqARlw1EI


And that was a 1 ton dually. Only way to avoid that was not be on the road.

Xtrucker 06-13-2017 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wireman1 (Post 3627837)
And that was a 1 ton dually. Only way to avoid that was not be on the road.

Wind, my friend. He should have known not to be pulling it on a day like that.

mlh071056 06-13-2017 10:16 AM

We have a 2016 Flagstaff Super Lite with great outdoor kitchen and doored bunk room with outside access through bike door. Bought a used 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins diesel before we pulled th camper off the sales lot. Best decision we ever made. Been up and down the Appalachians and Blue Ridge. Headed to Rockies in 2018!

mlh071056 06-13-2017 10:17 AM

Oh and we live in north Florida

MLiljen 06-13-2017 03:45 PM

We have the MPG 2800QB from Cruiser RV. It has a full bunkhouse with hinged door, not the accordian style. Outdoor kitchen. It has a stove top, a fridge, and a sink...no oven or microwave... :( we rough it.

Works good for the 5 of us. Mom, Dad and three 8 year olds.

The trailer has been good to us.

Mike


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