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idoxlr8 05-31-2017 09:01 AM

Backup Cameras and wire routing
 
Last night I finished up the replacement of our rear back up camera replacement and new monitor. Unfortunately I learned after spending hours working on this that the original Sony cable is bad. So going to need to run a new cable from up front to the rear cap. Has anyone ran a cable down inside the cap to exit down below? There are holes on the left side which is where I think the top running light wires are at. Haven't found the original camera cable routing yet, so it must run someplace else.

Ordered 4 new cables this morning, going to replace the original at the top, plus a hitch camera, and two cables to run to the trailer for inside and rear view on it.

https://www.johnheard.com/images/coach/rearviewcam.jpg

vdubbugman53 05-31-2017 09:06 AM

Have you considered a wireless unit?

Edit:. As you have already installed the other one I suppose it is a little late for that.

idoxlr8 05-31-2017 09:45 AM

Yes, I did consider it.

I've used a el cheapo wireless ebay special a few years ago and it didn't work too great at about a 20' distance. With the rear camera on this setup being 75 foot away I wasn't too sure even a high quality wireless one would work all that great. I'm sure the wired system will work better, just more work to put in.

ROAquaman 05-31-2017 09:51 AM

I looked at running my new rear camera through the cap a few years ago but didn't have much luck finding a suitable pathway. I opted to run underneath chassis inside flexible conduit and sealed both ends. Has worked well so far.

Happy Trails

GlennLever 05-31-2017 01:28 PM

Not sure how your bedroom is set up. The cabinets on the rear wall have false bottoms and sides. maybe you can rout the wire that way?

idoxlr8 05-31-2017 09:17 PM

I'm hoping that I can run the camera cable across the rear cap and down drivers side, it looks hollow back there and I can see the wiring for I believe the rear running lights up there. I'm going to attempt to run a wire snake down it and see if that is open or not.

Glen didn't realize the bedroom cabinets had false bottoms in them, will have to look closer at that. I don't recall seeing any screws holding them in.

I did find out that the original camera cable runs directly underneath the roof, along the drivers side right above the trim that holds the rubber roof on. There's a number of wires there. Crazy place to put it, very difficult to service.

GlennLever 05-31-2017 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by idoxlr8 (Post 3625774)
I'm hoping that I can run the camera cable across the rear cap and down drivers side, it looks hollow back there and I can see the wiring for I believe the rear running lights up there. I'm going to attempt to run a wire snake down it and see if that is open or not.

Glen didn't realize the bedroom cabinets had false bottoms in them, will have to look closer at that. I don't recall seeing any screws holding them in.

I did find out that the original camera cable runs directly underneath the roof, along the drivers side right above the trim that holds the rubber roof on. There's a number of wires there. Crazy place to put it, very difficult to service.

The false bottoms and sides are pin nailed in place.

idoxlr8 06-01-2017 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennLever (Post 3625808)
The false bottoms and sides are pin nailed in place.

Ok, I'd prefer not drilling through into the bedroom but that might be an option if the other fails.

Tom3205 06-01-2017 07:11 AM

The coax may not be bad. Just the end coupling. Cut off existing connector, attach a new one, and see if that helps. If not, attach a 40 foot piece of coax, to existing coax, go inside to front, find the camera coax, and pull new cable thru.

idoxlr8 06-01-2017 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom3205 (Post 3626176)
The coax may not be bad. Just the end coupling. Cut off existing connector, attach a new one, and see if that helps. If not, attach a 40 foot piece of coax, to existing coax, go inside to front, find the camera coax, and pull new cable thru.

I was able to tell when looking at it that they taped the old backup camera cable to the other wires in places, it ain't gonna pull through unfortunately.

Bob B.. 06-01-2017 12:33 PM

Not hard
 
It's not difficult. I have a 2011 American Tradition. I ran the new wire for the new camera down through an existing hole in the top of the rear cap. Ran it down into the back of the engine bay. From there I crawled underneath and with plastic zip ties ran it all the way up to the front. Found an existing line going up into the dash and went with it. Attached it to the new monitor (and power) and now have a great picture. Just a little dirty underneath the Coach.

idoxlr8 06-04-2017 08:52 PM

Got all four cables ran this weekend, and two of the Cameras hooked up. I'm really looking forward to using the Hitch cam one when hooking up to the trailer, I think that one is going to help a lot.

It was not hard at all to snake the wire for the rear top camera down the left side. Lot harder trying to get them from under the dash to the top console.

https://www.johnheard.com/images/coach/cam1.jpg
https://www.johnheard.com/images/coach/cam2.jpg

GlennLever 06-04-2017 09:37 PM

Did you replace the monitor?

idoxlr8 06-04-2017 09:59 PM

Yes, I got rid of the Sony CRT and got a Voyager LCD Color monitor with 4 inputs.

GlennLever 06-05-2017 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by idoxlr8 (Post 3632119)
Yes, I got rid of the Sony CRT and got a Voyager LCD Color monitor with 4 inputs.

Can you PM me the model information?

idoxlr8 06-05-2017 05:49 AM

PM'd info Glen

idoxlr8 06-05-2017 07:57 AM

Bought one of these trailer cables today to connect the two trailer cameras. Not the same connector as the Voyager cameras take, but I'll find a way of adapting them, this setup is about $200 cheaper than the others I've found - TWO CAMERA REAR VIEW TRAILER CABLE CONNECTOR RECEPTACLE SET BACKUP VIDEO KIT 2 | eBay

NHRA225 06-06-2017 07:24 AM

I believe all of the wires and cables: ie-coax for tv-rear camera are run in the upper roof rail, where the roof radius is, front to back -at least I know mine is.
Are putting a camera in the trailer for viewing while driving ?

idoxlr8 06-06-2017 09:11 PM

You're correct, that's where the factory one is at. And it's taped with several other wires in there, no joy on just using it to pull new wires through.

Yes, gonna put one inside trailer and at the rear of trailer.

Just read of another trailer fire this evening, they think golf cart battery tipped over and started it. That happens all too often, makes me nervous. I've checked my hold down for the cart and seems good but I'm considering pulling it while traveling or making better mount. Lot of stuff back there to worry about.

GlennLever 06-07-2017 05:19 AM

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This happened to one of the racers in the series that I race in. We passed it on the way home from the race in Gateway last year. The engine survived, nothing else did. I have racers insurance. Everything is covered until I turn the key to fire up the dragster at the track.

He was able to separate the Motor Home from the trailer to save it.

NHRA225 06-07-2017 05:53 AM

I've seen and heard of the Fire issues before. I too have Full content coverage of everything in My Trailer. Golf Cars seen to be the majority cause.

idoxlr8 06-12-2017 02:57 PM

This weekend before we left I checked the battery in my Golf Cart, if you pulled it straight up, the hold down seemed good and tight, but if you moved the battery from the top inward, it came loose. Great... I pulled it out and put it in plastic tote before we left. Better safe than sorry.

GlennLever 06-12-2017 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by idoxlr8 (Post 3644805)
This weekend before we left I checked the battery in my Golf Cart, if you pulled it straight up, the hold down seemed good and tight, but if you moved the battery from the top inward, it came loose. Great... I pulled it out and put it in plastic tote before we left. Better safe than sorry.

Sounds like yet another project. Nice strong plastic battery box.

NHRA225 06-15-2017 04:32 PM

My Club Car has a V shape hold down which wraps over 2 corners .
My Battery does not move , at all . It's been down the road over 150,000 miles or so - well tied down with the front end up on my front cabinets - never moves an inch .

idoxlr8 06-15-2017 10:20 PM

Interesting, sounds like someone modified the mount at some point. I haven't had a chance to look at how to change mine yet.

NHRA225 06-16-2017 07:47 AM

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Interesting, sounds like someone modified the mount at some point. I haven't had a chance to look at how to change mine yet.

I bought this Club Car 1 yr old in 97 from an older Gentleman that used it running around His home.
Notice the tie down and secured Airbox above- also tied down, and everything is fused.

idoxlr8 06-16-2017 03:34 PM

That looks pretty good, my Club Car's air box doesn't go over the battery. At least on yours even if the hold down comes loose, it has to push the air box out of the way. Good deal, yours looks pretty safe.

Thanks for sharing the pics..

idoxlr8 06-18-2017 09:28 PM

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One of the two trailer cams mounted, about 1/2 way done running the cable for this one.

idoxlr8 06-26-2017 06:47 AM

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Cam #3 installed, I've got the wiring mostly ran for Cam #4 inside the trailer, just need to find where I want to put it in there and what model to use.

The infrared on the Voyager camera seems pretty good, but so does the $100 cheaper Boyo camera I put on the back of the trailer. Biggest difference is field of view, the Voyager has quite the fisheye effect.


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