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GLWilliams58 06-03-2008 01:25 PM

Hello...I am heading north to Knoxville and stopping at the lake in Murphy NC. I am not familiar with the land up there and need some suggestions.

AAA says from Murhpy NC, take 129S to 294N to 68N to get to 75N.
This passes through Coker Creek and Tellico Plains.

I am driving a 30' A with a 18' enclosed trailer and just looking for feedback about those roads crossing up and over the big hills. From those of you that may have gone this way before, is there anything to be concerned about on this route?

Thanks for you help.

GLWilliams58 06-03-2008 01:25 PM

Hello...I am heading north to Knoxville and stopping at the lake in Murphy NC. I am not familiar with the land up there and need some suggestions.

AAA says from Murhpy NC, take 129S to 294N to 68N to get to 75N.
This passes through Coker Creek and Tellico Plains.

I am driving a 30' A with a 18' enclosed trailer and just looking for feedback about those roads crossing up and over the big hills. From those of you that may have gone this way before, is there anything to be concerned about on this route?

Thanks for you help.

GaryKD 06-03-2008 02:57 PM

Hi GW,
I have not traveled the area you are interested in. However, the route mentioned in your post is not the route I would choose. My Rand McNally says 294 and 68 are not federal highways. The route is also labeled as a scenic route.

Consider Rt 129 North all the way to Knoxville. Route 129 is a Federal highway. It should have been built and currently maintained to federal standards.

doc 06-03-2008 04:24 PM

Surely you are jesting about 129 to Knoxville. This route is The Tail of the Dragon and is as crooked as a black snake. I get tired and carsick in my automobile headed that way.

look at this and then make up your mind

Motorcycles out the gazoo and none of them going slow!

CoastieSCPO 06-03-2008 07:10 PM

I am sorry to say, but there are no real good choices unless you drive all the way to I-40 and drive over the gorge into Tennessee and get to Knoxville from the east. Much to far out of the way. Do not take US 129, it is long, winding and dangerous. You could consider US 64/74 into Cleveland, Tn. I took it in a car several years ago and the NC side was good, but the Tn side was 2 lane, winding with steep grades and the Ocoee River is on one side and trees on the other. It is a much shorter trip than US 129 would be. With a motorhome and a trailer it is rough on the brakes. Supplemental braking is a must.

Bob

Lorna 06-03-2008 07:48 PM

I currently live in Franklin, NC but used to live just West of Chattanooga near Kimball. I made the 200 mile trip from one place to the other twice a month (or more) for several years. I have been on all the roads mentioned above as I grew up in the area.

This is a better route than running over to I40...

From Murphy, take US19/129 South to Blairsville, GA. Take US76 West thru Blue Ridge/Ellijay (reduce speed - cross bridge - turn right at the first light as you hit town then immediate left to stay on US76)/Chatsworth (that's the worst part as you'll be driving thru town)/Dalton (either stay straight or turn right onto the By-Pass) this will either put you onto I75 at Exit 333 (Cracker Barrel is there) or Exit 336/Rocky Face via the By-Pass (I usually took the By-Pass). Take I75 North to I24 (INSIDE LEFT LANE!!! Dual Lanes drop to 1 - Left - Lane to merge onto I24!! DO NOT GO TO THE REST STOP AT THE GA/TN STATE LINE!!!) immediately after Exit 1 in East Ridge/Chattanooga to Knoxville. Wildwood GA (Exit 174) is a good spot for gas. Right after Wildwood, I59 turns off on the right side of the Interstate... caution, drivers wait until the last minute and then cross 3 lanes to go to AL... usually without looking at the traffic around them. This route will put you having to pull Monteagle Mountain (shortly after Exit 152 Kimball/S. Pittsburg). Just take it easy going up the mountain (it's a long haul) and you will be okay. The Wal-Mart at Kimball will allow overnight parking if you need it... they also have a Cracker Barrel there now so you will see signs for it. Not long after Kimball you will start up Monteagle. BTW, this route across the north edge of GA will give you cellphone coverage about 95% of the way.

GLWilliams58 06-04-2008 01:26 AM

Lorna, I was following your route until I got onto 75. I am heading to Knoxville, not Nashville. So once I get to 75N, I would be fine right?
[quote]From Murphy, take US19/129 South to Blairsville, GA. Take US76 West thru Blue Ridge/Ellijay (reduce speed - cross bridge - turn right at the first light as you hit town then immediate left to stay on US76)/Chatsworth (that's the worst part as you'll be driving thru town)/Dalton (either stay straight or turn right onto the By-Pass) this will either put you onto I75 at Exit 333.[quote]

GLWilliams58 06-04-2008 01:32 AM

Coasti,

64/74 looks like a shorter route back to 75N, than what Lorna suggested. Your route encouraged supplemental breaking. Of course I have breaks on my trailer. What other breaking would you be thinking about? Is that two lane with a drop off better to avoid, by heading further south as Lorna suggested?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You could consider US 64/74 into Cleveland, Tn. I took it in a car several years ago and the NC side was good, but the Tn side was 2 lane, winding with steep grades and the Ocoee River is on one side and trees on the other. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

GLWilliams58 06-04-2008 01:39 AM

Doc,

I am very familiar with the Tail on 129. You are exactly correct. That is why I thought it best to ask before heading up there. Of course that route through Robbinsville is not on my agenda. The only part of 129 I will be on is south of Murphy.

Thanks for the post and the link.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Surely you are jesting about 129 to Knoxville. This route is The Tail of the Dragon and is as crooked as a black snake. I get tired and carsick in my automobile headed that way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

GLWilliams58 06-04-2008 02:08 AM

One more question. I am coming up from Atlanta to Murphy. I see that 575 turns into 515, which becomes a two lane road that runs through and is eventually labeled the Appalachian Hwy. The direct route is via a GA-60 Spur N to 74/64 and into Murphy. The alternative is to stay on 515 to Blairsville, then N on 129 to 74/64 N into Murphy.

Any thoughts on taking 515 or the spur? Alternatively I could route up 75 to Cleveland TN before heading E to Murphy.

My main concern is to avoid some of the tiny back roads with hairpin turns, steep grades ands low hanging trees. I don't mind enjoyable two lane roadways with a view. But I also want to avoid 35mph stretches as well.

Thanks for your insight.

doc 06-04-2008 12:08 PM

I am not familiar with that route. However, it might be simpler to get off I-75 Macon or Forsyth and come up through Athens, getting on US 129 either in Milledgeville or Athens. US129 will take you up to Blairsville with the biggest traffic problem being Gainesville. This is an excellent road, even if it does get a little steep on Blood Mountain near Vogel State Park.

Atlanta just seems a little out of the way heading to Blairsville area

CoastieSCPO 06-04-2008 12:26 PM

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you did not have trailer brakes. Must of been thinking about using supplemental braking when towing a car. https://irv2.infopop.cc/images/oboy.gif

Lorna is correct with the suggested route except that while driving north on I-75 from Dalton, Ga and just as you enter Tennessee keep to the right and stay on I-75. It will take you all the way to Knoxville.

Bob

GLWilliams58 06-04-2008 02:38 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Lorna is correct with the suggested route except that while driving north on I-75 from Dalton, Ga and just as you enter Tennessee keep to the right and stay on I-75. It will take you all the way to Knoxville.

Bob </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Bob...so you are saying that 64/74 is not a as good as Lorna's route down through Blue Ridge to Dalton? Would you say 64/74 greater than a 6% grade?

GLWilliams58 06-04-2008 02:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by doc:
I am not familiar with that route. However, it might be simpler to get off I-75 Macon or Forsyth and come up through Athens, getting on US 129 either in Milledgeville or Athens. US129 will take you up to Blairsville with the biggest traffic problem being Gainesville. This is an excellent road, even if it does get a little steep on Blood Mountain near Vogel State Park.

Atlanta just seems a little out of the way heading to Blairsville area </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Doc---I am glad you said that about 129 from Athens. I am going to be coming through Union Point, south of Athens and was initially looking at that route to Blairsville. If it is really a nice road, that might be my path.

Thanks.

CoastieSCPO 06-04-2008 05:05 PM

I do not believe that US 64/74 is any more than 6% but it is narrow in places with lots of curves. It is a lot shorter than Lorna's route. I have been in Blairville, but it was in the toad. Blarisville is in the mountains but we took US 129 from the south to get there. I have not travelled on US 76 but it looks like a four lane highway and, by the way, if you take that road, US 441 is not in the mountains, runs north and south and can be used to miss Chattanooga. We have use that road.

No terrific choices here, but if you don't mind driving a little out of the way, the 76 route might be best. Funny thing, the way the crow flies is real short!

Bob

GLWilliams58 06-04-2008 05:33 PM

Bob,

You said 441 north to bypass Chattanooga. Do you mean 411? Looking at 441, that is way east and goes right up through Gatlinburg.

CoastieSCPO 06-04-2008 07:12 PM

It's 411. You could scoot over to I-75 at Tn 30 or 68. We've used both those roads going to the KOA in Tellico Plains or go all the way to I-140 to I40. Yes, it is 411, boy do I need a new pair of glasses! https://irv2.infopop.cc/groupee_commo...on_biggrin.gif

Bob

Lorna 06-05-2008 06:35 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GLWilliams58:
Lorna, I was following your route until I got onto 75. I am heading to Knoxville, not Nashville. So once I get to 75N, I would be fine right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, Stay to the Right after the GA/TN state line. This is what happens when I try posting something when half asleep. David said you may want to consider 68 in Ducktown. This will take you out to I75 at Sweetwater. Road is pretty decent too.

515 is a good country road, little traffic. You should have no problem with your RV on it.


BTW, David usually took 64 thru the Gorge and By Pass around south end of Cleveland to I75 when he traveled from Franklin to Whitwell (former home). 200 mile driveway to driveway. I would run 64 to Hayesville, drop down and pick up 76 to Dalton and on to Whitwell. 210 miles driveway to driveway. Not much differance. Of course I never got stuck in the Gorge for hours because a semi got hung up on the rocks either.

chasfm11 06-06-2008 04:30 AM

Not to steal someone else's thread but we need to drive in a close by area and I was looking for some suggestions.

We are heading from Dallas to West Jefferson, NC. My original plan was to take I-40 through Knoxville, then I-81, turning off on Route 58. Mountain Directory East feedback on the latter convinced me not to do that. Now, I'm thinking about staying on I-81 a bit longer and taking Route 16 over the mountain. I've found no feedback that says that the Route 16 up and down is terrible. Once I get to Mouth of Wilson, I'm good. It is just figuring a way to get there.

Last year, we left West Jefferson to the south and ended up using Route 321 towards I-77 then taking I-77 and I-40 back to Knoxville. That wasn't a lot of fun. The 7-8% grades on Route 321, followed by a couple of miles of 10% grade were exactly the situation that I'm trying to avoid. 6-7% grades are fine for me as long as they don't have a lot of hairpins. Even with diesel at $5 a gallon, I'd rather drive an extra 30 miles than give myself a white knuckle down hill. Vacations are supposed to relieve stress, not add it.

Does anyone know that routes that I've listed, particularly Route 16 and can offer feedback?

Thanks

Charlie

Lorna 06-07-2008 07:09 AM

Why don't you get off I81 at either I181 (Johnson City/Kingsport exit) and take the road thru Elizabethton (Exit 24... we just spent the past 6 months in Elizabethton) to 19E to Hampton US321 over to Boone (I know the roads are not bad too as we explored on weekends) and then up US221 to W Jefferson. Alternatively, looks like on the map you could get off I81 to Bristol and take US421 all the way to US221. I have been on US421 from Shady Valley to Mountain City and that part of the road is decent. But then, I don't know what type of roads you would be comfortable on. These are high mountain roads. They are considered Primary roads even when 2 laned. Shoulders may be tight and you will see several semi-trucks on them.

chasfm11 06-07-2008 05:45 PM

Thanks for the feedback, Lorna. I just looked at Route 321 (Mountain Directory has no information on it) on my Street Atlas and it sure does look twisty. I can see at least one of what appears to be a hair pin. I'm not sure that we didn't go through part of that once.

As far as what I would be comfortable on, that is pretty easy to explain. Downhills at 45-50mph are pretty easy for us. The engine/transmission hold us back pretty well. When we have to drop into the 30mph range, especially for hairpins, our exhaust brake is less effective and I'm on my brake pedal more. That's not good. The semis have a engine compression brake that will really hold them back. We just cannot match that. Short sections of steep (8-9%) followed by a hairpin are what taught me (afterwards) that rum comes in 1.75 liter bottles! I can pick my way down most roads but I'm doing about half the speed of the rest of the traffic and I'd prefer not to put us in that position if it can be helped.

One of the signs on Route 58 out of Abingdon mentioned Route 16 as a good alternative for trucks. That is why I was considering it. The time in the mountain appears to be just a little shorter (21 miles versus 32 miles on Route 321)

I'm not happy with the fact that Moutain Directly has neither Route 16 or Route 321 listed. I'd like to believe that is good thing from my perspective but am not very confident.

Lorna 06-07-2008 07:42 PM

Have you tried looking at the roads in question on Mapquest? They have an "aerial" view that shows the mountains. 321 runs around the lake and on top of the ridges, hence the twists and turns. We have been on 312 and then turned off onto 67 to go around the lake. There were no really bad turns there even though it looks like there may be a hairpin turn. Look up Hampton, TN and chase down the road on Aerial view.

chasfm11 06-12-2008 07:05 AM

Lorna, I did as you suggested and agree that the aerial view appears as you suggested. I also used that view to look at Route 421 further east that we used last year. I know that there is a 10% grade but was unable to detect it via the visuals.

Additionally, I contacted the NC State Police. They responded with a confirmation that we should use the route that you suggested. So, we'll be driving Route 321 on our trip.

Thanks very much for you valuable information.

Charlie


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