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Old-Biscuit 03-30-2018 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jrms88 (Post 4111810)
my trucks weighs 8300 load ready to camping when i pull my TT.

combined WT for my truck is 23500
FA is 6K
RA is 7K
tires rated at 3400 and some change
my truck gvw is 11500
payload is 3406

F5 that we are looking at range between 12500-13200 unloaded, and gross is 15100-16200
pin WT is in between 1910-2450


7K RAWR........
So how much weight is being carried by rear axle when truck is loaded up and weighing 8300#?

Rear tires...3400# and some change
They should be higher rating then axle otherwise THEY are your limiting factor for weight carrying :eek:


5vr pin weights....
1910-2450 are DRY weights. Nowhere close to what actual WET pin weights will be (based on the DRY trailer weights)

15000 with 20% ratio would have a wet pin of 3000#

So how much weight can you add to loaded up trucks Rear Axle/Tires before MAXng out/overloading??????


I have a 2007 3500 SRW...tow a 14K 5th wheel with a wet pin of 3090#
Right at RAWR (6200#) and under Rear Tires (3195/each--6390)


:)

Alan_Barb 03-31-2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit (Post 4112461)
7K RAWR........
So how much weight is being carried by rear axle when truck is loaded up and weighing 8300#?

Rear tires...3400# and some change
They should be higher rating then axle otherwise THEY are your limiting factor for weight carrying :eek:


5vr pin weights....
1910-2450 are DRY weights. Nowhere close to what actual WET pin weights will be (based on the DRY trailer weights)

15000 with 20% ratio would have a wet pin of 3000#

So how much weight can you add to loaded up trucks Rear Axle/Tires before MAXng out/overloading??????


I have a 2007 3500 SRW...tow a 14K 5th wheel with a wet pin of 3090#
Right at RAWR (6200#) and under Rear Tires (3195/each--6390)


:)



We decided that we wanted to stay with a SRW truck. So we went with the largest fifth wheel we could for that, a 39í with a 16,000 GVWR. So far so good.

IC2 03-31-2018 07:35 AM

As usual, the weight police have spoken.

You will NOT have any problem with a 38 foot and in the 12-13,000 pound range, especially if you have the camper AND 5th wheel packages and a long bed which includes overload spring leafs and a sway bar. Your truck's 'B' door post will give you the legal rating for pin load

xrated 03-31-2018 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by IC2 (Post 4112771)
As usual, the weight police have spoken.

You will NOT have any problem with a 38 foot and in the 12-13,000 pound range, especially if you have the camper AND 5th wheel packages and a long bed which includes overload spring leafs and a sway bar. Your truck's 'B' door post will give you the legal rating for pin load

And.....as usual, the "weight police" have tried to explain the numbers and provide a scenario that will allow the O.P. to make a decision that will allow him to tow safely and within the posted capacities of the truck that he has. Seriously....what is wrong with giving accurate and factual information based on given load capacities that are supplied by a manufacturer?

dayle1 03-31-2018 08:04 AM

OP says 8300 lbs for the truck, loaded. If that includes family and everything, then with 11.5k GVWR, then just 3200 lbs is left for hitch and pin weight. But more critical is not exceeding the tire rating.

archer75 03-31-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dayle1 (Post 4112815)
OP says 8300 lbs for the truck, loaded. If that includes family and everything, then with 11.5k GVWR, then just 3200 lbs is left for hitch and pin weight. But more critical is not exceeding the tire rating.



And people and cargo also must be factored in. In addition to hitch and pin weight.

xrated 03-31-2018 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayle1 (Post 4112815)
OP says 8300 lbs for the truck, loaded. If that includes family and everything, then with 11.5k GVWR, then just 3200 lbs is left for hitch and pin weight. But more critical is not exceeding the tire rating.

I noticed that too.....something doesn't seem right with the numbers. The late model trucks don't even include the driver's weight as they did in previous years (150 lbs average....which was a joke to start with). So whatever the actual payload is, as posted on the driver side yellow/white sticker, any of the weights like driver's weight, passenger weight, tools, cargo, 5ver hitch, etc....anything and everything that goes in or on the truck, must be deducted from that sticker number.....which will of course give you the real world amount of available payload for the trailer pin weight.

jrms88 03-31-2018 10:27 AM

yeah the police, it’s all good they have a right to speak too��. but yeah i have the camper package with overload.

jrms88 03-31-2018 10:37 AM

i like all your guys comments, iím new at all this weight number stuff so bare with me please. at the end of the day im all about safety when it comes to towing and family and the other folks on the road, and i watch out for the crazy people that tow and trust me thier out there. from your guys comments i trust you on the road beside me.
we are still looking for the right fit for my truck when it comes to the 5w.

thanks lets keep the conversation going and iíll update you guys on what we buy

2016 ford f350 cc 6.7
5w:still looking

CWSWine 03-31-2018 10:44 AM

I had a 2015 Ford SRW Diesel with 3744 on the yellow tag payload.

Our 40 foot Montana 3711 Front Living Room loaded for 30 day trip on the CAT scale the truck weighed in at 11,320 with Trucks GVWR of 11,500 with a dry pin weight of 2700 pounds.

Our 34 foot Grand Design Solitude 310GK loaded for 30 day trip on the CAT scale weight in at 12,300 with Trucks GVWR of 11,500 with a dry pin weight of 2250.

So the 40 foot Montana was 180 pounds below the GVWR of the truck and the Solitude was 800 pounds over and within 300 pounds of my axle weights. I still want to add a washer and dryer and generator which would have put me over the axle weights.

You can judge a 5er weight by length - the CAT scales is the only way you know for sure.

Oldelevatorman 04-01-2018 12:54 AM

Pin weight numbers are way off, probably dry weights. Figure at least 20% minimum for pin weight. Mine's 22%!

MorganT69 04-01-2018 06:35 AM

Go with the Reese Goosebox, adds no weight to the truck at all and is warrantied by Lippert not to damage your frame. I love mine and the air ride is wonderful. https://www.reeseprod.com/products/pi...notJoVbxIFMqvl

stanleyz 04-01-2018 09:01 PM

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You must be new. Never never ever start a "weight" thread. The responses will make you numb and you won't know much more when you finish than when you started. I've been towing stuff since 1958. Just use good common sense and do whatever you feel like. If you're not commercial no body cares what your stuff weighs. Now if the bumper is dragging and the lights are pointing up in the trees you might get stopped for unsafe vehicle but no one cares what you tow. Comon out and join us the camping is great. BTW there is very little difference between an F250 and F350, very little. The truck in the picture is an F250 short bed. Drove this combo for a year, no poblem.

dwknox3 04-02-2018 05:35 PM

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We have a 2016 Ford F350 SRW w/6.7 Powerstoke w/3.55 rear end, 2016 Primetime Sanibel 3601, is 40 ft. We gross wt. truck, trailer lp tanks full, fresh water full 23,000 lbs, our hitch wt. Is 2850 lbs. We've been coast to coast with, haven't found any place wouldn't go, also love the engine brake.Attachment 197627


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