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grantrekker 12-11-2019 05:11 PM

Wood Fireplace installed in a fiver???
 
Anyone installed a small wood burning fireplace in their fiver? Seems like ones used on the sailboats (the Sardine, Lopez Island, WA) or the smallest wood fired residential models could work well (too well perhaps). We boondock mostly and heat totally on wood fired heating at our base home which is a log cabin (Lopi stove and hand built "Russian" stone fireplace) and would love to have just enough wood fireplace btu's to keep the fiver warm in winter. Installation of the chimney exit is the biggest concern with the exit up through the slideout in the main cabin area or out the side and up. This is way beyond any retail fireplace shop installation guidelines, but... we love wood heat. Cheap and efficient. Anyone have success with such an installation? We have the room, can deal with the weight, can manage the wood fire risks as long as we keep to city type installation codes). I can imagine only a few sticks of wood will do the trick (or a presto log). Ideas? Experience?

Alpine36 12-11-2019 05:23 PM

Back in the day my buddy had a small pot belly stove in his old Grumman step van...our huntin and fishin rig. It worked well but smelled smokey, maybe that was something else burning tho lol.
Seriously though, I don't see why not if all proper precautions are followed. I know there are a whole set of guidelines for installs in mobile/manufactured homes. Rv's, no idea.
Have you considered a pellet stove? You can vent those similar to a clothes dryer. If you manually light them the fan and auger can easily run on a small inverter, plus they can utilize a programmable thermostat to shut down after you go to bed.

grantrekker 12-11-2019 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine36 (Post 5071525)
Back in the day my buddy had a small pot belly stove in his old Grumman step van...our huntin and fishin rig. It worked well but smelled smokey, maybe that was something else burning tho lol.
Seriously though, I don't see why not if all proper precautions are followed. I know there are a whole set of guidelines for installs in mobile/manufactured homes. Rv's, no idea.
Have you considered a pellet stove? You can vent those similar to a clothes dryer. If you manually light them the fan and auger can easily run on a small inverter, plus they can utilize a programmable thermostat to shut down after you go to bed.

We are old school and pellets with the electric fan just doesn't cut it for us. I think we can find a small unit that will take a 4" exhaust chimney. I think the only compromise we will make is using presto logs when split wood can't be found. Love the smokey smell, just tells us the fireplace is choked down a bit early. The teardown/reinstallation of the chimney for travel is the most interesting part of the equation, I believe. Am sure with some simple fabrication and twist tight pipe, this can be addressed.

Alpine36 12-11-2019 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by grantrekker (Post 5071553)
We are old school and pellets with the electric fan just doesn't cut it for us. I think we can find a small unit that will take a 4" exhaust chimney. I think the only compromise we will make is using presto logs when split wood can't be found. Love the smokey smell, just tells us the fireplace is choked down a bit early. The teardown/reinstallation of the chimney for travel is the most interesting part of the equation, I believe. Am sure with some simple fabrication and twist tight pipe, this can be addressed.

Double wall 3" i.d. pellet stove pipe may be your answer with the correct wall or roof jack plate. It twists together, stainless and has available clean out tee. You would probably need to fab a custom outlet adaptor for the stove. And some type of approved spark arrester that could be easily removed for travel.
Have you researched tiny tent stoves? That may be something to look into...

grindstone01 12-11-2019 06:02 PM

We also heated our S&B house with wood, but it's just not practical in a RV. There are many things to consider, such as dealing with the fire wood inside the RV, clearance space needed for the wood stove inside the RV, hot stove pipe in a small space which would be easy to bump into, creosote from the stove pipe leaching onto RV roof, and then there is the spark concern of landing on the RV roof.
Now if you boondock, you could put a enclosed wood stove outside and duct the heat through a window.

SLOweather 12-11-2019 06:27 PM

I dunno why a small marine wood stove couldn't be fitted. I supply boxes of wood chunks to a watchmaker friend for his live-aboard. My only concerns would be the integrity of the chimney system on the road and ensuring that the fire is out before travel.

grantrekker 12-11-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine36 (Post 5071568)
Double wall 3" i.d. pellet stove pipe may be your answer with the correct wall or roof jack plate. It twists together, stainless and has available clean out tee. You would probably need to fab a custom outlet adaptor for the stove. And some type of approved spark arrester that could be easily removed for travel.
Have you researched tiny tent stoves? That may be something to look into...

As I see it then, the issue with this construction may be getting a fitting that will allow withdrawal/extension if it is fitted in the slideout. Am assuming I will want to extend two feet above the interior ceiling level.

Rhagfo 12-11-2019 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by grantrekker (Post 5071513)
Anyone installed a small wood burning fireplace in their fiver? Seems like ones used on the sailboats (the Sardine, Lopez Island, WA) or the smallest wood fired residential models could work well (too well perhaps). We boondock mostly and heat totally on wood fired heating at our base home which is a log cabin (Lopi stove and hand built "Russian" stone fireplace) and would love to have just enough wood fireplace btu's to keep the fiver warm in winter. Installation of the chimney exit is the biggest concern with the exit up through the slideout in the main cabin area or out the side and up. This is way beyond any retail fireplace shop installation guidelines, but... we love wood heat. Cheap and efficient. Anyone have success with such an installation? We have the room, can deal with the weight, can manage the wood fire risks as long as we keep to city type installation codes). I can imagine only a few sticks of wood will do the trick (or a presto log). Ideas? Experience?


Let me get this straight, a wood burning fireplace/stove inside a tinder box?

grantrekker 12-11-2019 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhagfo (Post 5071643)
Let me get this straight, a wood burning fireplace/stove inside a tinder box?

Exactly, why would you consider a fifth wheel a tinder box? No different from another living space in my opinion. Looking for constructive criticism or remarks.

grantrekker 12-11-2019 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by grindstone01 (Post 5071570)
We also heated our S&B house with wood, but it's just not practical in a RV. There are many things to consider, such as dealing with the fire wood inside the RV, clearance space needed for the wood stove inside the RV, hot stove pipe in a small space which would be easy to bump into, creosote from the stove pipe leaching onto RV roof, and then there is the spark concern of landing on the RV roof.
Now if you boondock, you could put a enclosed wood stove outside and duct the heat through a window.

S & B ???

Rubirose 12-11-2019 08:08 PM

I've seen a wood stove chimney come out the window in a toyhauler, has it set up in the garage. Don't know exactly type of stove but I'm guessing wood since our resort is deep in the bush

mtofell 12-11-2019 08:19 PM

You'll never find any manufacturer (of the trailer or wood stove) that would bless this installation so you are basically going against what you "should" do. As a fellow lover of wood heat I admire your vision but am struggling to envision the installation. Mainly, the flue and termination and all the clearances. A side venting pellet stove would sure be a lot easier but you need some electricity/battery and it's not quite the same, I know.

Ndrorder 12-11-2019 09:03 PM

So interested in the concept, a quick search resulted in a company called cubic mini stoves. Many of the issues mentioned here seem already solved. Thanks for the thread.

keymastr 12-11-2019 10:36 PM

When I was a commercial fisherman in Alaska we had diesel fired stoves. They come as small as 4 loaves of bread and worked quite well. Stove pipe did not get nearly as hot as a wood fired stove. I believe they have propane fired stoves as well. Try Fisheries supply in Seattle, they have many options including stoves that accept wood pellets, charcoal, prestolog pieces etc.

RVs burn fast so make sure it is done right and don't overload it. You won't often get a second chance.


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