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2002dura 12-24-2019 06:48 PM

New 5th wheel Manufacturer
 
Looks like a new manufacturer of 5th wheels will be starting up in January. Alliance RV is completing a new factory and says they will be producing luxury fifth wheels. Most of the upper management seems to be coming from Heartland and then manufacturing from Grand Design. The Brady's were with Heartland before they got bought out. Looking forward to seeing what they come out with. Supposedly going to be at some shows in January, hopefully with some show units as there calendar does have models listed per event.

I found an interview from August.

jdpm 12-24-2019 09:10 PM

This will be interesting to see. I'm not holding my breath for anything special. All of the quality manufacturers have gone belly-up all about the around the same time.
Carriage made quality rigs for 40 years and the guy who took them into bankruptcy then took over the upstart sister Lifestyle LRV and took them into bankruptcy.
All the quality manufacturers such as Carriage/Lifesyle, Excel, Teton, and NuWa and Continental Coach have closed.
Luxe RV started making nice fivers and still do but reduced production to only the larger, higher priced units.
I'm so tired of all the manufactures coming out with new lines and touting themselves as luxury/high end and there's not one thing different about their build.
Then Vanleigh started up. Nothing specials about them at all and touting themselves as high-end with the likes of Lippert axles and cheap Chinese tires. Really? Beautiful paint though!
I will be watching but I'm not holding my breath. If its even as nice as a DRV or Riverstone I will be surprised. :popcorn:

HJLowell 12-24-2019 09:12 PM

Time will tell.

1. Will they put together sourced parts like lippert frames and so forth.
Like most do.

Or will they step it up quality wise and start by Manufacturing a superior quality frame and adequate, quality axles,wheels,tires and disc brakes.
Do you remember the dually wheels and disc brakes that Newmar used ?

Will they use a one piece fiberglass roof ?

And quality, real viable quality maximum
R value insulation?

If not they will depend on Marketing hype like most have.
And offer nothing new for the buyer.
Thats not already available.

Time will tell???
The first shows are a month away. [emoji106][emoji6][emoji41]

JDT 12-25-2019 07:39 AM

We are kind of, sort of starting to look. I really get discouraged when I read about all these issues some are having with their rv purchases, realizing, of course, that usually only unhappy folks post their experiences and the happy ones don't. We would like to have something a little shorter and a little lighter but with good build qualities. Generally lighter and quality don't seem to mix well. Maybe these folks will do something different. We can hope.

We had some decent manufacturers like Excel and NuWa but, just my opinion, they couldn't compete with the glitz and glamour offered by their competitors for a much lower price. House built frames, good undercarriage and fiberglass roofs add costs that others bypass and use the savings to add bling.

TXiceman 12-25-2019 06:39 PM

If they really want to shake up the RV market, they need to use a Young's Welding frame that is powder coated, dual pane windows, better insulation, better cabinets, heavier furniture and carpet, and Mor/Ryde IS suspension and American made tires rated fro the load.

Problem with this is it will make the Rv heavier and people can;t pull them with their 3/4 ton trucks and they will be more $$$$.

A number of higher end manufacturers have bit the dust and cannot keep up with the glitz from Thor and Forest River. I am very fornatuate that we got one of the last HitchHiker Champagnes. A well built, true 4-season, full time RV.

Ken

consolenut 12-26-2019 06:01 AM

Curiois to know if they dont use Lippert Frames. And if they is the spray foam insulation. Instead of the Bat

JpalmerCass 12-26-2019 03:03 PM

Neither the website or interview gives much useful information other than that the people involved understand the RV making business as practiced in Indiana. Which is not necessarily a good thing for consumers.

jdpm 12-26-2019 03:55 PM

I hate to sound like a sad sack but it's all hype to get them launched. Just like Vanleigh and GD.....nothing special. Americans will buy it if if looks good enough. They love blink and gimmickry!

jlsr 12-26-2019 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by consolenut (Post 5087096)
Curiois to know if they dont use Lippert Frames. And if they is the spray foam insulation. Instead of the Bat

Their frames will be Lippert. From what I've read so far they will be in the 70k range and build / components seem similar to all the other mid range 5th wheel mfgrs. I read that they will have a unit at the Tampa RV show and Ft Worth RV show in January.
I'll keep my Lifestyle 😉

chucklesg 12-26-2019 04:19 PM

Can't help but wonder how long they will last until they sell out to Thor, FR, or Winnebago! And if they use Lippert junk, they won't last and the warranty issues will drive them crazy. GD sold out just in time to stick it to Winnebago!

consolenut 12-26-2019 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlsr (Post 5087702)
Their frames will be Lippert. From what I've read so far they will be in the 70k range and build / components seem similar to all the other mid range 5th wheel mfgrs. I read that they will have a unit at the Tampa RV show and Ft Worth RV show in January.
I'll keep my Lifestyle [emoji6]

wishful thinking i guess. Ill keep my Teton till something else comes along thats actually an upgrade.

JpalmerCass 12-26-2019 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdpm (Post 5087680)
I hate to sound like a sad sack but it's all hype to get them launched. Just like Vanleigh and GD.....nothing special. Americans will buy it if if looks good enough. They love blink and gimmickry!

VanLeigh does have pretty nice all wood cabinetry on some models, that's uncommon. And simpler, less flashy cabinetry than usual at that. And options for heavier axles and disc brakes. I think they're quite a bit nicer than GDs, Montanas, Bighorns and such.

BubbaChris 12-27-2019 12:54 PM

FYI - They have a private group (easy to join) on Facebook and Bill Martin very actively participates. They preview floorplans and designs there.

Bill tries to answer all questions and often gives out his cell number if you want to call and discuss specifics.

Best regards,
Chris

Cumminsfan 12-27-2019 01:58 PM

So if you can't build a better product then offer better customer service.
After the CS is gone what're are you left with?
The same stuff everyone else has.


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