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tuffr2 06-11-2020 07:09 AM

Winnebago - does this Verbage mean anything?
 
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I am thinking outdoor grade plywood, BAL chassis and not Lippert and Huck Bolt are all good things. Is it enough to put a Winnebago ahead of Rockwood/Flagstaff travel trailers?


Please read the verbage and tell me what you think...thanksAttachment 289145

tuffr2 06-11-2020 09:45 AM

I failed to mention that as an option BAL auto leveling can be ordered. To me that tells me one of two things.

1. The travel trailer chassis is strong enough for auto leveling.

Or

2. The chassis is not really strong enough and it will cause a lot of structural damage in the future.

Bigbird65 06-11-2020 02:44 PM

My Minnie has cracks in the frame near the bottom Huck bolts. It is scheduled for repair as soon as the parts come in from BAL/Norco.
https://i.imgur.com/L6yMrzjl.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/f0vyW26l.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/r8qs6wtl.jpg

tuffr2 06-11-2020 08:50 PM

Wow, that does not look good. Just like I kinda thought - it is just a sales pitch. But I will say this...I did not see any rust.

bneukam 06-11-2020 09:53 PM

My Lance has the same Nexgen BAL frame. They have been using it since 2017, and have never heard, or seen this. Not a speck of rust on ours after 3 years.

Nickd 06-11-2020 10:22 PM

I could easily be wrong, but it looks like that frame rail was coated before the bolt was installed. I just see cracking and lifting in the black coating from the picture. I would soft pad that back and get to the steel for a serious look. Perhaps an X-ray in in order?

If itís really cracked through the frame rail itís under engineered. It will need reinforcement to spread that load.

Just an opinion from a picture.

swavescatter 06-11-2020 10:59 PM

I just bought a 2021 Spyder 29STT. Same build quality you'd expect from a stick and tin Cherokee entry level trailer. I'm very disappointed but at the end of the day I do like the floor plan given my needs...

Bigbird65 06-12-2020 05:22 AM

When this piece gets welded into place it will be better than new. This is the Norco part.



https://i.imgur.com/eQ5dq7Ml.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jc7E801l.jpg

tuffr2 06-12-2020 06:23 AM

How did you notice the frame was cracked? Did you see damage inside the trailer?

Again, I do not see any rust so at least that is good.

Ljwt330 06-12-2020 09:10 AM

Here is what I see, especially in the last picture by Bigbird65.


https://i.imgur.com/r8qs6wtl.jpg


There is a noticeable bulge, just below the head of the Huck bolt. To me, that bulge indicates some structural support on the back side of the frame rail. The Huck bolt is attached just where the bend for the support piece happens and it appears that the extreme pressure of the Huck bolt at that location caused the crack to appear. I have no experience with trailer construction so it may be that the Huck bolt also is used, to hold in place, whatever supporting piece is behind the frame rail and creates the bulge. If so, then it's a design flaw, IMO. The welded piece, offered by Bigbird65, is the solution to that flaw.

Bigbird65 06-12-2020 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuffr2 (Post 5300903)
How did you notice the frame was cracked? Did you see damage inside the trailer?

Again, I do not see any rust so at least that is good.

I read about the cracks on the Winnebago Minnie Owners website. I then looked at my Minnie and saw the cracks. You can't see these from inside the trailer because they are on the frame. No rust.

Bigbird65 06-12-2020 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ljwt330 (Post 5301138)
Here is what I see, especially in the last picture by Bigbird65.





There is a noticeable bulge, just below the head of the Huck bolt. To me, that bulge indicates some structural support on the back side of the frame rail. The Huck bolt is attached just where the bend for the support piece happens and it appears that the extreme pressure of the Huck bolt at that location caused the crack to appear. I have no experience with trailer construction so it may be that the Huck bolt also is used, to hold in place, whatever supporting piece is behind the frame rail and creates the bulge. If so, then it's a design flaw, IMO. The welded piece, offered by Bigbird65, is the solution to that flaw.

The bulge you see is probably camera angle or lighting. I just looked at it again in my back yard and there is no bulge. There are two Huck bolts on each side of the trailer, one above the other. They are used to secure a cross member between the two sides. You can't see the cross member because it is above the bottom covering and insulation. On the Winnebago towables these cracks are always in the same place. The Micro Minnies and the larger Minnies don't seem to be involved, only the middle sized ones. The middle size ones share the same frame with the lighter Micros and the larger ones have a heavier frame. No one that I recall has had the cracks under the upper Huck bolts.

tuffr2 06-12-2020 12:30 PM

So if I am looking at a Mini Plus they have the heavier frame and do not have this problem. If so, that is good. Winnebago has been building RV's forever. You would think they would not have this problem.

They do have the best fiberglass by far from other travel trailers I looked at.

Oh, i did hear that the color of their trailers would fade bad. Like red turns into pink.

Bigbird65 06-12-2020 01:46 PM

I have not heard of a Minnie Plus having this problem. I bought a new 2101DS in 2014 and swapped it in on the larger 2250DS in 2018. If I should ever swap this one in it will be another Winnebago. They are one of the best built trailers on the market and Winnebago really stands behind their trailers. They are no longer selling the bright colored trailers because of the fading issue as I understand it.


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