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Seabee Chief 10-31-2020 09:51 AM

Super C RV Park Restrictions
 
Watching a video on YouTube and someone mentioned that some RV parks would not allow Super C RV's, like Renegade or Seneca.

Any of y'all ever heard of this, or faced the situation? What is the problem?

Chief

deandec 10-31-2020 10:01 AM

RV Resorts with occupants that each own their lot may have an HOA that allows only motorhomes of a certain length or only Class A motorhomes.

The lot owners may rent their lot to transients when they are not using it, but the restrictions remain.

Gary RVRoamer 10-31-2020 07:50 PM

Exclusive resort parks that bill themselves as "Class A Motorhome Only" would not allow a Super C, or any C for that matter. There aren't very many such places and they don't hide their restrictions, so you won't get surprised.

hohenwald48 10-31-2020 09:22 PM

As a matter of fact, there many class A only resorts. They just aren't listed in regular campground directories. Some folks seek them out.

Gary RVRoamer 11-01-2020 06:26 AM

I guess it depends on what you call "many". :rolleyes: There are nearly 15,000 RV campgrounds in the USA, but probably about 50 that are Class A only.


We've stayed in several, mostly along the East & West Coasts in prime resort areas.

petrel 11-01-2020 07:06 AM

Yes, it is a thing. We've accidentally booked into one before, but noticed our mistake before arrival. Fortunately there aren't many of them. However, they are almost always beautiful spots. Had one A-only spot say they could make an exception if we had "full paint," instead of white n stainless.

PbFoot 11-01-2020 01:53 PM

This is a real dilemma for me, causing me to rethink my purchase of a new Renegade Classic vs a Newmar King Aire or Essex.
Would like to be able to spend some time at some of these luxury resorts in Montana, California and Nevada.
I know it’s such a “first world” problem to have but it’s slowing down my retirement plans. :cool:

Isaac-1 11-01-2020 04:22 PM

There are all sorts of places with all sorts of restrictions out there, a few years ago when looking for potential commercial campgrounds near Yellowstone, I ran across one that was not only class A only, but the class A must be over 34 ft long.

WorldCat25 11-01-2020 05:53 PM

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I believe some of these Class A resorts were founded by the Class A manufacturers as an exclusive park for purchasers of their coaches. I've attached a picture of one in California that some friends own a place in. Truely a delightful place. 9 hole par 3 golf course, club house, every pad has a custom enclosure with kitchen, bath, laundry room and lounge area. Some of the rigs we saw were incredible. In fact, our friends traded in their 37' Nemar for a 45" tag axle - I think maybe because they felt they needed to keep up with the others.

By the way, we had to stay around the corner in our Super C. We'll keep doing our boondocking thing but it would be nice to stay with them for a few days.

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hohenwald48 11-02-2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary RVRoamer (Post 5503840)
I guess it depends on what you call "many". :rolleyes: There are nearly 15,000 RV campgrounds in the USA, but probably about 50 that are Class A only.


We've stayed in several, mostly along the East & West Coasts in prime resort areas.

There are probably more than 50 in Florida alone. We stay in class A only resorts as much as possible and seldom have any trouble finding one no matter where we are in the country.

UTTransplant 11-02-2020 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hohenwald48 (Post 5505973)
There are probably more than 50 in Florida alone. We stay in class A only resorts as much as possible and seldom have any trouble finding one no matter where we are in the country.

Your numbers are probably accurate. We haven’t ever stayed at one because we don’t like the price tag, but I certainly have driven past a number of them. I think they concentrate in snowbird locations, though I have seen some in lovely spots in Wyoming and Idaho. I guess if your non-RVing life matches these resorts, they are a better fit. The ones we have seen are really lovely, but run $80-100+ a night. I have seen some advertised at around $200. They seem to have enough people renting/buying there, but I have never needed to find a place and the only option was a Class A resort.

RonLC 11-02-2020 06:05 PM

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We have run into this several times. Most of the parks that will not accommodate us are deed restricted and cannot easily change. We try to stay in parks that please us like this one.

Old-Biscuit 11-02-2020 06:19 PM

They are a business and allowed to get rules/restrictions that are cost beneficial to them

I agree with Groucho Marx
https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/27/11...7f87b7f20e.jpg

My money, my CHOICE so if they don't want my business that is OK
My RV has wheels and LOTS of other places to stay

It would NOT restrict my choice in an RV

Simple.....

happy2rv 11-02-2020 07:15 PM

I don't think I will ever make a decision on which RV is right for me based on a few parks snobbish rules. Yes, there are a few "Motorcoach" or Class A only campgrounds around. Most of them appear to be very nice facilities, but in almost every instance, there are very nice alternatives nearby that don't have such restrictions.



I think this is one of those rules that doesn't really make much sense. There are MANY fifth wheels, Super-Cs, and luxury trailers that are both more expensive and draw a more sophisticated owner than MANY class A motor homes. Think Flair and Hurricane vs Grand Design travel trailer or any of the upscale fifth wheels.


I also think the premise that you spent more money on your RV, so you must be classier is just plain wrong. I've seen some of the least friendly and least classy people come out of some of the most expensive RVs.



I don't have anything against kids, but age restricted parks make MUCH more sense to em than Class A only...



We will probably move back to a Class A when we retire simply because it's more convenient while traveling. We may someday stay in one of those Motorcoach only exclusive resorts, but I wouldn't necessarily seek one out and I've never felt particularly limited in my travels based on the RV I had at the time and I've owned multiple class A, class C, and now a travel trailer...

EcoRick 11-02-2020 09:44 PM

As ridiculous as it sounds, we purchased a Class A because we didn’t want to be restricted on a resort we wanted to stay at. When we started looking at all types of RV’s, we also looked at resorts we’d like to stay at. There were too many that we wouldn’t be able to get into without a Class A. We were leaning towards a Class A and this tipped it in for us. I hope at some time in the near future Super C’s can be added since some are incredible and cost far more than the class A that gain entry.

hohenwald48 11-03-2020 04:09 PM

I also enjoy eating in restaurants where men are required to wear jackets. The business sets the rules and the patrons abide by them. If you don't want to stay there then don't. Many folks do. You can call it snobbish if you want. Some folk drink 12 year old scotch and some folks prefer Busch beer. No big deal. My choice and I worked long and hard to be able to make the choice.

I think the ones who are "snobbish" are the ones who are critical of my choices just because they make other choices.

Roger G 11-03-2020 06:25 PM

I own a lot in a Class A only park. The restriction is not there because we look down upon Class C’s or Fifth Wheels. The restriction is there because the original developers thought it made their park more exclusive and thus more expensive The majority of owners could care less what type of RV you own, granted there will always be one owner who buys into the perceived exclusivity. In our case we have little ability to change the covenants originally established by the developer. Our covenants require 75% of the owners be present and to vote to change anything. Getting 75% of the owners to physically be present for a vote is about like herding cats.

zman62 11-03-2020 06:41 PM

We have found those class A only resorts are top notch! We try and plane our trips around them.

Honestly after 14 coaches I don’t understand the draw to a super C. You can’t go in the nice resorts, have less room/storage vs a class A. Tow capacities are equal, prices are equal, just don’t get it

Bob_C 11-03-2020 07:01 PM

And most of you need to pay someone to change a light bulb......

Chrome 11-03-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PbFoot (Post 5504333)
This is a real dilemma for me, causing me to rethink my purchase of a new Renegade Classic vs a Newmar King Aire or Essex.
Would like to be able to spend some time at some of these luxury resorts in Montana, California and Nevada.
I know it’s such a “first world” problem to have but it’s slowing down my retirement plans. :cool:

In the Palm Springs area (Indio) they have a "Motorcoach RV Resort" and its strictly "newer, better, longer and nicer rigs. It was once owned by owners of Monaco and Prevost.
A beautiful park and Class A buses only.

Chrome 11-03-2020 07:46 PM

They make all kinds of RV's and we all fit into a mould some where. If we all bought the same rig it would be boring!
Some super "Cs" don't fit into a certain park, that's OK.
Sometimes my 40' Dp will not fit into some older parks that were made for smaller units. That's OK
Buy the one that suits you, love it, drive it and go where you please.

happy2rv 11-03-2020 10:26 PM

For what its worth, call it exclusivity or snobbish, my point was I personally don't believe it achieves the intended objective. The price point and environment do more to achieve the objective than the restrictions IMHO. I do agree the owners and developers have every right, within the law, to restrict their facilities any way they desire. I meant no disrespect to anyone who chooses to use these facilities and even indicated I might in the future. I do like upscale/luxury resorts on occasion, especially special occasions.



The point I was trying to make, at least for me, is that the number of parks that restrict you to class A only isn't generally a factor in finding a nice park. Are some of the luxury resorts really nice? Yes! Would I choose my RV based on access to these limited number of facilities? No! Anyone else is obviously entitled to their own opinion. It wasn't my intent to imply that anyone who utilizes these facilities are snobs, although if that's your primary motivation for selecting the "best" RV for your needs, one might wonder...



There are many reasons to select a class A and there are many reasons to select other types of RVs. My selection criteria tends to be somewhat more utilitarian. Personally, I would generally choose a class A over a class C or Super C in most instances. However, they make different types of RVs for a reason.

twogypsies 11-04-2020 12:42 PM

Sure glad we like public parks and boondocking on public lands. Makes it so much easier and more pleasant! :)

Dutch Star Don 11-04-2020 03:42 PM

Just for the record, not all of the Class A motor coach parks are outrageously priced. When you buy a lot at most of them, just like houses, there are more expensive sites than others, like ocean view versus the rear of the park. People are also allowed to upgrade their sites, like adding cabanas, custom BBQ's and entertainment centers. Some just elect to leave the site as it was originally setup.

There is a nice motor coach resort in Florence, Oregon, with ocean front sites. Last year we were looking for a spot over the crowded Labor Day weekend and was able to get 4 nights at that park for $70.00 a night. In Oregon, and especially California, that was about $20.00 per night less than other parks that are not restricted. Now one of the ocean view sites was $130.00, but we were happy with our site.

LarryinID 11-08-2020 04:01 PM

Fortunately it is very rare for us to stay in a commercial RV park.

While traveling try welcomeboondockers.com. Since I offer a space it is free. Sometimes length restrictions but never saw any about equipment.

Johnynorthla 11-08-2020 04:06 PM

The key word I’ve found is that they call themselves “motor coach” resorts.

Blackey Cole 11-08-2020 05:55 PM

I have found more locations that turned me away because of my old rest her soak. She was an American Staffature terrier, related to pit pills. Current dog is a pit but both are lovers not fighters. So if you have pets look for that also as well as the 10 year age limit restriction. Best to find a spot, go to the website and call them explain your situation and see what they say. Money is money if you are there mid week they might over look things.

augerdogger 11-08-2020 07:02 PM

I was turned down at Class A MH home parks a few times in the 20 yrs I owned Featherlite bus conversions. The park by-laws say Class A MH only and that is what they park. Why argue, head down the road to a park that the noses are not so high in the air. IMO a bus conversion is the safest MH you can buy.

RAMer-Jammer 11-08-2020 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnynorthla (Post 5512769)
The key word I’ve found is that they call themselves “motor coach” resorts.

I'm putting that into my "never go there" list . . .

Johnynorthla 11-09-2020 08:32 AM

Some only allow diesel class A coaches!

Zephyr08Bill 11-09-2020 09:02 AM

RiverBend MotorCoach Resort in LaBelle, FL is class A only. Several years ago an attempt to allow a Super C failed.

bsnids 11-09-2020 12:19 PM

Some RV Parks call themselves “Luxury Motorcoach Resorts” and are “Class A” parks only which leaves out C’s, B’s, trailers or 5th wheels. Only a hand full of them around the country but they are wonderful places to be. We own a lot in Hearthside Grove LMC Resort and I think it’s the nicest in the country.

saddlesore 11-09-2020 12:50 PM

Have been denied entry to several "Class A Only" Resorts.
Not because We did not have an "Upper Tier" coach.....but because it wasn't "New" enough.... Went next door...half the price ...AND was surrounded by older multi million dollar coaches..and was warmly welcomed by their owners...

Isaac-1 11-09-2020 03:06 PM

This part of the bizarre thing about the rules at some of these so called class A only resorts, they will may allow a 7 year old entry level diesel pusher in that sold new for $180,000 that the current owner bought a month ago for $60,000, but not allow the 14 year old Million dollar coach which the current owner also bought last month but for $250,000

saddlesore 11-09-2020 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac-1 (Post 5514011)
This part of the bizarre thing about the rules at some of these so called class A only resorts, they will may allow a 7 year old entry level diesel pusher in that sold new for $180,000 that the current owner bought a month ago for $60,000, but not allow the 14 year old Million dollar coach which the current owner also bought last month but for $250,000

Their House...THEIR RULES.. and I have seen a 5 Year old entry level DP.. that needed a blue tarp on it's roof..[I won't mention the mfg.. other that to say it was 4 letters ....

Bob_C 11-09-2020 06:18 PM

I''ll say it....THOR......


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