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angigibaby 05-28-2021 07:19 PM

2008 Revolution Slide Issues
 
Hey all. This is our first big motorhome and we are struggling with some issues. We purchased a new to us 2008 Revolution 42K LE. The big wall slide on the driver's side worked when we picked it up but not when we got it home. We have the jacks down and engine running. Checked the fuses under the driver's door and they were good. We didn't receive any paperwork with this coach, so we are pretty much flying blind. I have searched but can't find anything that is helpful.



Any ideas? We are prepared to take it to a pro, but feel like it's something simple that we are missing. Any help would be appreciated.



~Angie

jimjenturner 05-28-2021 07:27 PM

Check that E Brake is on.

angigibaby 05-28-2021 07:38 PM

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Here are some images. DH texted them to me. I'm not sure what they go to.

angigibaby 05-28-2021 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjenturner (Post 5769601)
Check that E Brake is on.


That's the air brake, right? Yes.

Cat320 05-31-2021 07:33 PM

You said the jacks were down...but is your coach level, and use high idle when moving the FWS.

Tha_Rooster 06-01-2021 06:23 AM

2008 Revolution Slide Issues
 
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Originally Posted by angigibaby (Post 5769590)
Hey all. This is our first big motorhome and we are struggling with some issues. We purchased a new to us 2008 Revolution 42K LE. The big wall slide on the driver's side worked when we picked it up but not when we got it home. We have the jacks down and engine running. Checked the fuses under the driver's door and they were good. We didn't receive any paperwork with this coach, so we are pretty much flying blind. I have searched but can't find anything that is helpful.



Any ideas? We are prepared to take it to a pro, but feel like it's something simple that we are missing. Any help would be appreciated.



~Angie



Does your slide have slide locks and are they moving? What is your coach battery voltage because slides and wires to them. Try hitting auxiliary start button at same time trying to open. Check voltage at slide controller in your picture. Also what is you engine voltage gauge while running?

angigibaby 06-01-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha_Rooster (Post 5773851)
Does your slide have slide locks and are they moving? What is your coach battery voltage because slides and wires to them. Try hitting auxiliary start button at same time trying to open. Check voltage at slide controller in your picture. Also what is you engine voltage gauge while running?


Thanks. So we didn't know about the high idle. We did that and messed around with it. It seems that the key switch is backwards. So we were able to get the locks to come off, but nothing else. Now we can't get the locks to go back down. So maybe it's the key system?

Tha_Rooster 06-02-2021 06:14 AM

2008 Revolution Slide Issues
 
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Originally Posted by angigibaby (Post 5774605)
Thanks. So we didn't know about the high idle. We did that and messed around with it. It seems that the key switch is backwards. So we were able to get the locks to come off, but nothing else. Now we can't get the locks to go back down. So maybe it's the key system?



If a fast idle did anything you probably have a low voltage problem. According to manual you need in the mid 13 volts for operation thatís why engine should be running. Have you tried engine running and aux start button down while trying? Slide needs to be opened then closed for locks to close back. Remember slide is running off of house batteries not chassis batteries.

angigibaby 06-02-2021 08:34 AM

The gauge at the inverter and solar charger system both read 14.1. I assume that refers to the house batteries. Is this wrong?

Tha_Rooster 06-02-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by angigibaby (Post 5775166)
The gauge at the inverter and solar charger system both read 14.1. I assume that refers to the house batteries. Is this wrong?



Thatís good,no one push the reset button on slide control panel did they? If not donít. I would still try push aux start button while trying slides.

angigibaby 06-02-2021 12:43 PM

I appreciate your time responding. We have not set the reset, I don't think we know where that is. If we did, it was accidental. We will try the aux start this afternoon.



Just to clarify, the two passenger slides have no problems. It's just the big wall slide on the driver's side.

Tha_Rooster 06-02-2021 02:16 PM

2008 Revolution Slide Issues
 
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Originally Posted by Tha_Rooster (Post 5775263)
Thatís good,no one push the reset button on slide control panel did they? If not donít. I would still try push aux start button while trying slides.



In your picture of controller it says field reset in and out. Those buttons set the slide to the outter and inner limits. So if you had hit it while closed it would think itís open. Check all the plugs and fuses on that controller. Power gear has a multiple page how to on your slide.

Tha_Rooster 06-05-2021 10:52 AM

2008 Revolution Slide Issues
 
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Originally Posted by angigibaby (Post 5774605)
Thanks. So we didn't know about the high idle. We did that and messed around with it. It seems that the key switch is backwards. So we were able to get the locks to come off, but nothing else. Now we can't get the locks to go back down. So maybe it's the key system?



You could alway remove switch panel and jump the key switch.I also have a cabinet door in bedroom with a safety switch on it and slide will not operate if it comes open.

Jandcinok 06-06-2021 06:02 PM

Im probably too late here but, on our Tradition, the smaller slide opposite the super slide has to extend first. Dont know w hy, it just does.

angigibaby 06-07-2021 07:09 AM

We tried the auxiliary start and were able to get the locks to go in and out, but no slide movement. However, we discovered that one of the battery cables was loose and some others had corrosion. Hubs is going to look into cleaning that all up today and try again this afternoon.

Tha_Rooster 06-07-2021 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by angigibaby (Post 5781443)
We tried the auxiliary start and were able to get the locks to go in and out, but no slide movement. However, we discovered that one of the battery cables was loose and some others had corrosion. Hubs is going to look into cleaning that all up today and try again this afternoon.



Take pictures and mark wires before removing anything or you could be like so many others not knowing where wires go.

angigibaby 06-07-2021 11:22 PM

Still didn't work. Only opened and closed the locks again :sad:

Tha_Rooster 06-08-2021 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by angigibaby (Post 5782641)
Still didn't work. Only opened and closed the locks again :sad:



Do you have engine running? What is the voltage from alternator? Should be in the 14 volt range.

Tha_Rooster 06-08-2021 11:41 AM

2008 Revolution Slide Issues
 
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If and only if your slide locks are open you can jump green and red to open slide and blue and red to close.Attachment 331351 have you check fuse in black fuse holder on red wire?

IndyHntr 06-08-2021 08:35 PM

If you have not figured this out yet, let me know. I have the wiring diagram for the coach. I have same unit. I can email or where u located. Long shot that we are close

Cat 06-08-2021 09:05 PM

If you have a rear tv where the slide comes in there is a safety switch so that the slide will not come in with the tv compartment open. Make sure any compartment that the slide move by is closed securely. There maybe other safety on those compartments.

Tha_Rooster 06-09-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cat (Post 5783944)
If you have a rear tv where the slide comes in there is a safety switch so that the slide will not come in with the tv compartment open. Make sure any compartment that the slide move by is closed securely. There maybe other safety on those compartments.



Same as post #13

Stonehands 06-10-2021 08:43 AM

we have a 2007 Revolution LE 40E and have a slightly similar problem from time to time.

We have one living room slide on the driver side, master bedroom slide on driver side and 1 slide on the passenger slide.

Bedroom slide zooms in and out like a champ. I assume its due to the small nature of the slide.

The passenger slide goes in and out fine with no hesitation but not as quick as the bedroom slide. No hesitation however and is smooth and steady.

The driver side living room slide however goes out just fine every time. Going in 50% of the time, the slide comes in about an inch or two and stops. If you continue to hit the rocker switch every couple of seconds the slide comes in about 1 to 2 inches each bump. Once the slide gets past the point where it has to come up to floor level then it comes in just fine.

I have tried the AUX start at same time and has no impact.
I always have engine running and putting out 13 to 14 volts.
The only in the slide are the coach and dinette and no other weight on the slide.
We always bring the slides in while the levelers are down so coach is level.

I now found that when this happens if I stop and extend the slide a bit and try bringing it in again, after 2 times sometimes, the coach takes off and just comes in just fine. My thought is that an adjustment may be off and the motor is having a hard time retracting the first foot of so trying to drag the slide up past the floor level point.

I know where and how to manually bring in the slide so in the event the motor craps out I will be able to bring it in. I also checked the motor and is looks original and has a WHITE END CAP which I read on the motor site that this denotes a hight torque motor. If thats true or not I don't know. Would like to know why the slide has trouble coming in the first foot and then works just fine. :banghead:

Stonehands 06-10-2021 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonehands (Post 5785732)
we have a 2007 Revolution LE 40E and have a slightly similar problem from time to time.

We have one living room slide on the driver side, master bedroom slide on driver side and 1 slide on the passenger slide.

Bedroom slide zooms in and out like a champ. I assume its due to the small nature of the slide.

The passenger slide goes in and out fine with no hesitation but not as quick as the bedroom slide. No hesitation however and is smooth and steady.

The driver side living room slide however goes out just fine every time. Going in 50% of the time, the slide comes in about an inch or two and stops. If you continue to hit the rocker switch every couple of seconds the slide comes in about 1 to 2 inches each bump. Once the slide gets past the point where it has to come up to floor level then it comes in just fine.

I have tried the AUX start at same time and has no impact.
I always have engine running and putting out 13 to 14 volts.
The only in the slide are the coach and dinette and no other weight on the slide.
We always bring the slides in while the levelers are down so coach is level.

I now found that when this happens if I stop and extend the slide a bit and try bringing it in again, after 2 times sometimes, the coach takes off and just comes in just fine. My thought is that an adjustment may be off and the motor is having a hard time retracting the first foot of so trying to drag the slide up past the floor level point.

I know where and how to manually bring in the slide so in the event the motor craps out I will be able to bring it in. I also checked the motor and is looks original and has a WHITE END CAP which I read on the motor site that this denotes a hight torque motor. If thats true or not I don't know. Would like to know why the slide has trouble coming in the first foot and then works just fine. :banghead:

Had a thought. Could it be the slow burn fuse? Would it kick out if too much load but then reset it self? not sure how a slow burn fuse works.

angigibaby 06-10-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyHntr (Post 5783896)
If you have not figured this out yet, let me know. I have the wiring diagram for the coach. I have same unit. I can email or where u located. Long shot that we are close

That would be great. I’m in Reno currently, so we are not close. Email would be awesome. Angieknoll1@yahoo.com

Pierpressure 06-10-2021 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonehands (Post 5785732)
we have a 2007 Revolution LE 40E and have a slightly similar problem from time to time.



We have one living room slide on the driver side, master bedroom slide on driver side and 1 slide on the passenger slide.



Bedroom slide zooms in and out like a champ. I assume its due to the small nature of the slide.



The passenger slide goes in and out fine with no hesitation but not as quick as the bedroom slide. No hesitation however and is smooth and steady.



The driver side living room slide however goes out just fine every time. Going in 50% of the time, the slide comes in about an inch or two and stops. If you continue to hit the rocker switch every couple of seconds the slide comes in about 1 to 2 inches each bump. Once the slide gets past the point where it has to come up to floor level then it comes in just fine.



I have tried the AUX start at same time and has no impact.

I always have engine running and putting out 13 to 14 volts.

The only in the slide are the coach and dinette and no other weight on the slide.

We always bring the slides in while the levelers are down so coach is level.



I now found that when this happens if I stop and extend the slide a bit and try bringing it in again, after 2 times sometimes, the coach takes off and just comes in just fine. My thought is that an adjustment may be off and the motor is having a hard time retracting the first foot of so trying to drag the slide up past the floor level point.



I know where and how to manually bring in the slide so in the event the motor craps out I will be able to bring it in. I also checked the motor and is looks original and has a WHITE END CAP which I read on the motor site that this denotes a hight torque motor. If thats true or not I don't know. Would like to know why the slide has trouble coming in the first foot and then works just fine. :banghead:



I have the exact same symptoms on my 06 Revolution 40e.

gatorv 06-10-2021 06:54 PM

Hi Angie. This is Gator from Reno. I sent you a PM with my phone number. Call or text me about the slide and coach. Gator

IndyHntr 06-11-2021 07:50 AM

Hi Stonehands,

I have the 2008 version of the 42K LE. Mine does same thing, except.
All three of ours has no problem going out at all, but our kitchen slide (which is only hydraulic slide) will stop about a foot short. We also have to let up on the switch, wait 15-30 sec. then push switch to finish closure. I am assuming it is a thermal breaker that blows and needs to reset itself.
I have never tried replacing, but might do that now thinking of it.
I am wondering if issue with electric not pulling in is motor is aging, wiring is undersized or a poor ground.

Original poster: have you checked for voltage at the motor when the switch is depressed? Try unhooking all 4 motors. And then check for voltage. With meter you can check the voltage level also. This will tell you if it is a motor or motors or the controller. Also check voltage into controller, all the pinning of the controller are labeled.

angigibaby 06-22-2021 05:55 PM

Voltage at motor is a consistent 14.0-14.2.



Took it to the shop last week. It appears it is the control board :( It had been previously jerry-rigged. Every one of the wire clips to the board had been removed and reinstalled with electrical tape :blink: There is power going in from each wire. They cleaned up all of the wiring to look for corrosion first and re-wired the key that was backwards. So they are trying to locate the board. Of course, it isn't made anymore. :facepalm: I will keep you posted. We are moving on Friday to Montana, so it looks like we move with 150 sqft less of living area. Hopefully we can get it fixed there.

Tha_Rooster 06-23-2021 06:45 AM

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Voltage at motor is a consistent 14.0-14.2.



Took it to the shop last week. It appears it is the control board :( It had been previously jerry-rigged. Every one of the wire clips to the board had been removed and reinstalled with electrical tape :blink: There is power going in from each wire. They cleaned up all of the wiring to look for corrosion first and re-wired the key that was backwards. So they are trying to locate the board. Of course, it isn't made anymore. :facepalm: I will keep you posted. We are moving on Friday to Montana, so it looks like we move with 150 sqft less of living area. Hopefully we can get it fixed there.



Have you tried these people?Attachment 333282

angigibaby 07-24-2021 03:21 PM

This is Jeff, Angigibaby's DH.



I've finally had some time to circle back on this project since I have been traveling for work. We have a few issues with the coach so multiple projects are in the works when I can make time on the weekends.



Today I replaced the house batteries and found another loose connection on the positive side. The batteries when boondocking started out the evening in the mid 13 volt range and by about 2:30 am the alarm would go off on the fridge telling us low voltage. We had our fingers crossed that this was our slide issue, but no such luck.





Tries to open the FWS with new fully charged deep cycle house batteries, engine running at high idle setting. Locks opened, but no movement on the slide. Now the safety locks are open, and did not close. (The coach is also connected to shore power)



We have not had any luck finding an RV tech up here in Spirit Lake Idaho who has a teach pendant for the Power Gear p/n 1510000165 slide control that we paid way too much money for. I think I am at the point where I am going to attempt to change this thing out and try the manual approach to programming the stops. I just need to find the thread where this is spelled out again. I can't seem to find a teach pendant for sale for less than $850.



Curious about the jumping the red and blue wire comment. Do I need to stop at the appropriate time if I attempt this, or do the motors have limit switches?



Anyone know a way to close the safety locks? I need to deliver the RV back to Cummins on Thursday so they can attempt to fix our motor issue.



Hell of a project these rolling wrecks. No shortage of things to fix.



Jeff

angigibaby 07-24-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha_Rooster (Post 5783167)
If and only if your slide locks are open you can jump green and red to open slide and blue and red to close.Attachment 331351 have you check fuse in black fuse holder on red wire?




Do you jump it going into the controller, or coming out of the controller?



Jeff

gjames50 07-30-2021 06:21 PM

I have a 2008 Tradition and had some issues with the large slide-out. First the fuses on the controller were loose. Had to crimp down the terminals that hold the blade fuses to make those tight again. Then I discovered that the main battery feed to the slide-outs was on the wrong side of the Big Boy relay/isolator. Only when the batteries on either the chassis or the coach were low and the relay was triggered would the slide-outs work. I found this out after having fully topped off batteries and trying to run the slide-outs. Once this was remedied all the slide-outs worked better as they no longer were having to draw current through the Big Boy Relay. It's been flawless since. I have no idea if this was wrong from the factory or some previous owner or service shop.

angigibaby 08-22-2021 10:56 PM

Update:



We purchased a new control panel in Reno as we were moving. $2000. We had the coach in the shop Friday, June 18. This is where we found out the panel was bad. I asked them to expedite the shipping as our house was closing escrow on Friday, June 25. They did not expedite it, so we had to leave Reno without it and have them ship the part to Idaho. We couldn't wait around in Reno because we had to beat our moving trucks to our storage location. So, the control board arrived at the repair shop in Reno on Tuesday after we move. They ship it to Idaho (expedited this time :rolleyes:). But we know that we need to have it programmed.



We find a mobile RV repair to come out to do it. They are booked 2 weeks out. No worries, we have a vacation planned in Montana for a week anyway. While we are in Montana, mobile RV repair calls to say they don't have a programmer and can't find one, even tried borrowing it from other repair places. :sad:



So we go back to researching, realizing that we are going to have to do this on our own. Jeff finds a youtube video with the teach pendant instructions. We search for the teach pendant online. Only one place to get it. $800. I order it, and am nervous because I never get a confirmation or shipping notification. But it shows up at the house 3 days later.



We had an appointment to take the coach back to Cummins repair on July 30, so we didn't bother with the slide and headed to Montana (our daughter lives there) for a week. Coach was in the shop for 2 weeks. Picked it up on a Friday afternoon. Reviewed the teach pendant instructions again and installed the new control board. The next day, this most recent Saturday, we held our breath and went for it.



















IT WORKED!!!!! :dance::dance::dance: We have 150 extra square feet in our home!


I really appreciate all of you trying to trouble shoot with us. Thank you :)


We realize that when we first looked at the motor home to buy it, and when we picked it up, the seller had the slide out when we arrived. I don't know how he rigged it to open, but he definitely knew it didn't work (we have mutual friends who confirm this) and pretended it did. :mad:


Oh, well. We love the floor plan and still feel we got a good deal on it.

I'm just so happy the slide works now!


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