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RikR 06-29-2021 12:54 PM

Towing with Sprinter
 
We are taking delivery of our first Sprinter tomorrow. We have always had large diesel coaches and would like an idea of what to tow with the Sprinter.

Thanks

Winterbagoal 06-29-2021 02:07 PM

You can tow whatever you want as long as the weight of the vehicle is less than your hitch/drawbar capacity (usually 5,000 lbs), and the combined weight of the Spinter and towed don't exceed the GCWR (which is usually 15,250 lbs).
You can "steal" some weight from the Sprinter if your towed is heavier, just lighten the Sprinter's weight to accomodate a heavier towed vehicle, stay under the 15,250 lbs max, and don't go over the hitch capacity.
p.s. Wranglers are great 4 down toweds.

OSUdsdp4304 06-29-2021 03:31 PM

Miata as a Toad
 
we towed a 2006 Miata (std. tranny) behind our 2016 Sprinter. Sold our Sprinter(LTV) but still have the Miata

Jay in TX 06-29-2021 05:00 PM

Sprinter towing a Wrangler
 
I am looking for a Jeep Wrangler to pull 4 wheels down behind my sprinter chassis.
For those that have towed a Wrangler behind their Sprinter...
Does it feel like it struggles with the extra weight?
Did you pull it through the mountains or just on level ground?
How much worse was the mileage?
What other negatives did you experience?

Mr.Mark 06-29-2021 06:35 PM

I just took delivery of my Sprinter about 7 weeks ago. I towed the Lincoln that I use to tow with my Class A. It's right at the max of the tow rating for the Sprinter. I really don't want to tow a heavy car.

So, I'm going to order a Mini Cooper (6 speed manual) as soon as a baseplate is approved for the 2022. I will be ordering the lightest Mini possible.... two door, 3 cylinder engine, etc. It should come in at 2,800 lbs.

I could really feel the 4,200 lb. Lincoln behind me. I need to get a 'rattle clamp' for my hitch as that will make it quieter no matter what I tow. Never heard it behind my 45 ft. diesel pusher! LOL!

Safe travels,
Mark

MooseRiver 06-30-2021 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay in TX (Post 5811672)
I am looking for a Jeep Wrangler to pull 4 wheels down behind my sprinter chassis.
For those that have towed a Wrangler behind their Sprinter...
Does it feel like it struggles with the extra weight?
Did you pull it through the mountains or just on level ground?
How much worse was the mileage?
What other negatives did you experience?

We found a Wrangler recently and our Roadmaster tow bar set up is arriving today. We used Carvana and they were great, as used Wranglers are very hard to find and are going for top dollar. I plan to install the base plates and wiring this weekend then we are heading north via the Blue Ridge Parkway next weekend. So Iíll let you know how it handles the mountains.

We were at 11,380 lbs. with a full tank of fuel last trip so adding the 3,700 of the Wrangler is going to put us close to the 15,250 limit. All a little stressful as a new Sprinter owner but from everything Iíve read out here a Wrangler is a great choice and the Sprinter handles it very well.

Mr.Mark 06-30-2021 05:51 AM

I know that some of you have the class-C Sprinters. Currently I have only 925 miles on my odometer, I did check my mileage (pencil to paper) on my Pleasure Way towing and not towing.

Cat scale weight (fuel full, full water, empty holding tanks) 9,200 lbs.

Not towing: First tank, 281.0 miles mostly interstate, 20.84 mpg

Towing: Same stretch of interstate, 229.8 miles, 16.04 mpg

For those that don't have your unit in your signature, it would be nice to know which Sprinter you have.

Safe travels,
Mark

Winterbagoal 06-30-2021 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiver (Post 5812272)
We were at 11,380 lbs. with a full tank of fuel last trip so adding the 3,700 of the Wrangler is going to put us close to the 15,250 limit.

Just curious, but is that loaded for travel weight a typo? 11,380 lbs? If not, you're already 350 lbs over the Sprinter's GVWR of 11,030 lbs. If not, maybe get it weighted again, and confirm that number. If the tow vehicle is over weight to start, adding a towed will further stress the Sprinter chassis mechanicals.
My Navion runs around 10,600 lbs loaded for travel. That's why I ask.

Winterbagoal 06-30-2021 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay in TX (Post 5811672)
I am looking for a Jeep Wrangler to pull 4 wheels down behind my sprinter chassis.
For those that have towed a Wrangler behind their Sprinter...
Does it feel like it struggles with the extra weight?
Did you pull it through the mountains or just on level ground?
How much worse was the mileage?
What other negatives did you experience?

It doesn't struggle. I'm about 150 lbs under the GCWR of 15,250, pulling a 4500 lb Wrangler JKU, 4 down, loaded for travel.
Eastern Appalachians. I-75, I-40, I-26. Some challenging hills along there.
Average 15 mpg solo, 13 mpg towing at 60-65 mph. Speed, terrain, and weather will affect those numbers.
I use a Blue Ox tow system.

MooseRiver 07-01-2021 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterbagoal (Post 5812345)
Just curious, but is that loaded for travel weight a typo? 11,380 lbs? If not, you're already 350 lbs over the Sprinter's GVWR of 11,030 lbs. If not, maybe get it weighted again, and confirm that number. If the tow vehicle is over weight to start, adding a towed will further stress the Sprinter chassis mechanicals.
My Navion runs around 10,600 lbs loaded for travel. That's why I ask.

Yes, loaded for travel with full tank of fuel, 500 lbs of people & dogs, food, less than 1/4 tank of water. It surprised me for sure. I am well stocked, but not carrying anything extravagant. My plan was to offload some weight to the towed, which is listed at 3700. And I need to go through everything packed and eliminate anything non-essential.

Btw, itís a Forester MBS 2401B if itís not listed on these replies. The full slide and Equalizer system donít help when it comes to weight.

I will weigh again when Iím out for a test drive with the Wrangler in tow.

Winterbagoal 07-01-2021 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooseRiver (Post 5813740)
Yes, loaded for travel with full tank of fuel, 500 lbs of people & dogs, food, less than 1/4 tank of water. It surprised me for sure. I am well stocked, but not carrying anything extravagant. My plan was to offload some weight to the towed, which is listed at 3700. And I need to go through everything packed and eliminate anything non-essential.

Btw, itís a Forester MBS 2401B if itís not listed on these replies. The full slide and Equalizer system donít help when it comes to weight.

I will weigh again when Iím out for a test drive with the Wrangler in tow.

I checked your profile, and knew which make/model you have. You're right about the slide and levelers. They don't help.
It's the Achilles heel of the Sprinter chassis. Weight and OCCC.
Offloading excess TV weight to the Wrangler will definitely help get you below (closer to) the 11,030 GVWR. I did the same thing, which is why my JKU runs heavy, besides being a 4 door. I think I've got a fairly good balance between them.
Good luck figuring it out.

wayfarer2021 07-01-2021 07:13 AM

I guess you need to define struggle. My 2021 certainly slows down when towing our 3400 lb Equinox. It will slow down to 45+/- mph on relatively steep inclines. So if you run 60-65 mph and slow to 45 pulling hills/mountains it may not struggle but you definitely know the toad is back there. My experience is with a toad that is 1000lbs lighter than yours and I do not max out my GVWR.

Tom


Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterbagoal (Post 5812368)
It doesn't struggle. I'm about 150 lbs under the GCWR of 15,250, pulling a 4500 lb Wrangler JKU, 4 down, loaded for travel.
Eastern Appalachians. I-75, I-40, I-26. Some challenging hills along there.
Average 15 mpg solo, 13 mpg towing at 60-65 mph. Speed, terrain, and weather will affect those numbers.
I use a Blue Ox tow system.


KanzKran 07-01-2021 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterbagoal (Post 5813803)
Offloading excess TV weight to the Wrangler will definitely help get you below (closer to) the 11,030 GVWR.

Interestingly, the GAWR's of the two axles adds up to 12,130 lb, or 1100 lb more than the GVWR of 11,030. That gives a bit of freedom on how to distribute OCCC loads to stay within, or at least get close to, the GVWR.

Winterbagoal 07-01-2021 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KanzKran (Post 5813884)
Interestingly, the GAWR's of the two axles adds up to 12,130 lb, or 1100 lb more than the GVWR of 11,030. That gives a bit of freedom on how to distribute OCCC loads to stay within, or at least get close to, the GVWR.

I guess there are other hidden engineering considerations that caused the MB folks to leave the GVWR at 11,030. Probably frame/suspension related capacity/stress factors between the axles, and probably a bit of a cushion, jic. Whatever the reason, I'll offload to stay under the 11,030, and 15,250 manufacturer's numbers. For safety, legal, and insurance purposes, if for nothing else.


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