iRV2 Forums

iRV2 Forums (https://www.irv2.com/forums/)
-   Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion (https://www.irv2.com/forums/f45/)
-   -   So what can I pull with our 2020 F150 3.5l Ecoboost with HD towing package (https://www.irv2.com/forums/f45/so-what-can-i-pull-with-our-2020-f150-3-5l-ecoboost-with-hd-towing-package-546036.html)

Vtwin996 07-18-2021 10:12 PM

So what can I pull with our 2020 F150 3.5l Ecoboost with HD towing package
 
Looking to 'downsize' from our 30ft gas Class A. We have a 2020 F150 3.5L Ecoboost CrewCab 5ft bed 4x4 with HD tow package.
I'm looking for a bumper pull that I can do light offroading with like National Forest campgrounds. I've been looking at Forest River No Boundaries and other similar trailers but need some advice on what max weight I can comfortably pull without extensive truck upgrades. It's just my wife and I so we are looking at smaller rather than larger but would like 1 slide for extra interior room.
Any advice on what weight I should be looking at?
Thanks

tuffr2 07-19-2021 05:24 AM

I towed a total length 26.5' travel trailer that weighed loaded 5,500lbs. I towed it very comfortably with a 2011 F-150 5.0 litre. Knowing how it towed I would go heavier, maybe to 6,500lbs and 28' total length.

Humm - that is if I stayed in concrete. To off road camp, where I might be in sand, soft dirt, or mud, or slippery rocks I would want something much much lighter. Maybe an Expidition A-Liner. It is not easy to tow off road without getting stuck. I would want a F-150 with the FX-4 package.

To take a trailer off road I would look at the smallest NoBoundies and maybe a small Keystone Cougar with the factory installed 'Off the Grid' (OTG) package.

mistercee 07-19-2021 05:59 AM

As a Cougar 1/2 ton owner, wouldnít think it (or any 1/2 ton / ultra light) would be best option for going off road. The Keystone OTG package provides solar or solar prep, nothing that beefs up the unit in any way to make it more usable for off road.

As far as what you can tow, you are limited primarily by your truckís specific payload. What does the yellow/white door sticker state? Take 13% of the trailerís GVWR, 100 lbs for a hitch, the weight of you and all occupants that will be camping and all gear in the truck. Compare this to the sticker payload.

Sounds like you are looking small, you should be able to find plenty of beefier designs that fit the bill and keep you from being overloaded.

USAMTBR 07-19-2021 07:18 AM

So what can I pull with our 2020 F150 3.5l Ecoboost with HD towing package
 
My 24ft TT is 7500lb fully loaded with a heavily modified chassis and itís setup for prolonged boondocking. I can get places other trailers my size canít. Iíve had it all over the west.

My truck is a 3.5 EB SC FX4. If it rains heavily, youíre stuck until things dry out. I have slightly aggressive LT tires and a 1200lb Equilizer hitch which has good ground clearance which to me is important.

But I dumped a lot of money in it and I have lots of experience because I lived in it for over four years with much of that time mostly boondocking until the rangers caught me.

tuffr2 07-19-2021 09:52 AM

Agree if it rains you are stuck. I got stuck when it was wet... not fun. Anything that is wet gets slippery. Rocks, tree roots, grass etc. All much more slippery when wet.

Maybe it is just me, but towing 7,500lbs. off road is sketchy. Having an FX-4 has to be a big advantage.

I think the Keystone Cougar can have an 'Off Road' package also...but not sure if it is still offered.

Again, for off road I am thinking a Cricket, A-Liner Expidetion, Airstream Basecamp.

Sent from my SM-G930V using iRV2 - RV Forum mobile app

bneukam 07-19-2021 11:50 AM

Personally I wouldnít go over 6,000 lbs, and no longer than a 20í box. Once we hit forest service roads the WDH comes off for better traction, and better ride. Have higher rated springs on the truck so sagging isnít an issue.

Your overall length, especially with a slide out will be your biggest factor with being able to fit in a spot, and maneuver around trees so the slide can go out. Ours has a very deep slide, so it makes it more difficult.

dizcom 07-19-2021 12:01 PM

We had a trailer right around 5,000 and 25' with that exact truck, including over short dirt/sand runs. Never gave us any problems. The only surprise was that it cut the mileage to less than half what it got without it. I expected a drop, but was surprised that towing it over relatively flat terrain caused such a large drop in mileage.

We actually had two of these trucks with the 3.5 Eco Boost that we towed with. The first we added some air bags and the second we didn't. The airbags worked as advertised, but they gave the truck a harsh ride, even when not towing and fully deflated (down to 5 lbs or so). We skipped them on our second truck and were happier with the ride all around.

tuffr2 07-19-2021 12:19 PM

Doesn't the trailer get beat up when you take it off road? I lived were there were a few logging roads with deep ruts. I drove my truck on these roads but I would never pull a trailer up some of those roads.

Off road must mean something else than here in the East. Lots of mud and rocks and ruts.

Cumminsfan 07-19-2021 12:37 PM

I would look at these https://www.blackseriescamper.com/
for off grid/road camping.

Dave Pelletier 07-19-2021 12:49 PM

I'd stick around 6,000 lbs (loaded) and 25' (bumper to hitch). Black Series is nice if you're on an unlimited budget....My ORV is built better than most for light off pavement hauling but they don't make anything light enough though some have used 1/2 tons on the lighest Creekside units......I wouldn't.

Dave

bneukam 07-19-2021 02:08 PM

Big difference between logging roads and forest service roads which the OP is referring to. (Light off road).

See all models of trailers when we are in more remote areas.

Keeping your speed down is really important when it comes to not tearing up your trailer. 25 mph is the max for us, if I see someone coming up I just pull over to the side and let them go by. These conditions arenít any worse than traveling on paved roads that are in desperate need of repairs, at high speeds.

tuffr2 07-19-2021 03:32 PM

Sounds like a regular travel travel trailer would work. I was thinking what I know as off road with rocks and ruts.

I keep thinking a Keystone Cougar with the Off the Grid Package. That plus a portable generator. I think the OTG package includes a few outlets that will have power without running a generator. Outlets to charge a phone or laptop - probably not to plug a micro wave into.

Be careful - I do not think you would want a 12v refrigerator. You will want a propane/gas refrigerator.

USAMTBR 07-19-2021 03:46 PM

So what can I pull with our 2020 F150 3.5l Ecoboost with HD towing package
 
Clarification. I mentioned my trailer is 7500lb. What I forgot to state is that I folded my frame doing silly stuff. Itís now heavily reinforced and braced and has 5100lb axles. As far as the F150 is concerned itís surprised me how competent it is.

tuffr2 07-19-2021 03:55 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here is off the grid info from the Keystone Cougar brochure. They show a c-pap machine in the bedroom, a coffee maker in the kitchen, a TV in the living room. Not sure you can run everything at once...i kinda doubt it.

Attachment 336559

Sent from my SM-G930V using iRV2 - RV Forum mobile app

09 harley 07-19-2021 03:56 PM

I would suggest checking out the specific ratings that apply to your vehicle. They are available from your dealer. Talk to someone who is knowledgeable because most are not. Asking others for their advice is not the way to get the correct info. Some on this site have the info you need but do your homework.

Vtwin996 07-19-2021 05:45 PM

Thanks for all the great replies. some really good information. Just a point of clarification.The light 'off road' stuff I was talking about was not overlanding but the ability to get to the typical NF campgrounds that you see maybe 1/2 mile off the highway or BLM stuff but nothing crazy. I have a Jeep JK Wrangler for that.
Thanks again

daka320 07-20-2021 01:31 AM

I assume you are referring to the typical “boondocking” or “dispersed camping” on BLM land. Here in the west we have a huge amount of areas. We boondock quite a bit. Avoid 5th wheels or TT much longer than 25-30 ft. 5th wheels are too high to get through areas with low branches and anything much longer than 25 ft becomes too hard to maneuver in tight spots. As far as suspension, etc. just take your time and have a good set of tires with a couple of spares.
Tie or secure shut your cabinets or else all of your pots, pans and dishes will end up on the floor. Cornell makes almost unbreakable bowls and plates.
Also, a 4wd is almost a must with at tires. When it rains you need it to get out but some places you will still be stuck until it dries out.
Solar is the best thing ever! You get to enjoy nature without the noise of your generator. We still bring it along if needed for ac. We have the 400 watt Renogy system.
Also, Weboost Drive Reach is a godsend if you have teenagers. Installed the trucker antenna on the exterior and bigger antenna on the interior. We have T-Mobile and it made all the difference last year when we were mostly boondocking over the western us for six weeks.
Just a few suggestions if you plan on doing a lot of boondocking to make your life easier.

Vtwin996 07-23-2021 07:44 PM

Good information thanks. Yes, that is the kind of use we plan to do. I have a lot of more serious off road experience but that is with a 2 dr Wrangler with upgrades and a winch. Our F150 we would pull the TT with has the FX4 package.

CWSWine 07-26-2021 10:41 PM

I'm on the fence about buying a Airstream Base Camp X with lift kit for just what you are talking about. They have tent package that increases space that uses air to to deploy. It would be great for boondocking in Colorado up in the mountains on forest roads. The only negative I can see is price but you have a lot of priceless fun. I'm thinking a Jeep Gladator as a tow vehicle.


https://www.airstream.com/travel-trailers/basecamp/

daka320 07-27-2021 09:59 AM

Wow! Are those airstreams expensive! Starting price close to $50,000! Love the looks and functionally of them though. Mercedes of travel trailers.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:04 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.