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inthepines 07-21-2021 02:14 PM

Plumbing
 
The shower drain on my new to me 96 sportsman trailer has water showing in it.
I dont think that is normal?
At least not in house plumbing.
Can anyone confirm this before I have to start getting drastic?
I've tried snaking and using a low power drain cleaner with no luck.
Gray tank is empty, clean out downstream has no liquid in it.
I've removed the air admittance valves (ones under sinks) with no change either. Figured if was worth trying..

Old-Biscuit 07-21-2021 02:21 PM

Should not have visible water .......if it has a standard drop loop with 'P' trap
But if it has a long lipe between drain and 'P' trap then that section could hold water

How does shower drain....
Fast/Normal or Really slow??

Might have to access 'P' trap to remove/clean

TexasTwoStep 07-21-2021 02:42 PM

Are you sure the valve is opening when you pull handle?

inthepines 07-21-2021 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit (Post 5840813)
Should not have visible water .......if it has a standard drop loop with 'P' trap
But if it has a long lipe between drain and 'P' trap then that section could hold water

How does shower drain....
Fast/Normal or Really slow??

Might have to access 'P' trap to remove/clean

Yep I was afraid to hear that. terrible spot to work in also.

Drains slow, I've never used the shower yet so I'm not completely sure on how it drains. I only found out when I poured seal conditioner down it and it went down than stopped. I followed up with some water and same thing starts to go down but stops.

I've snaked from the clean out on the downslope side of it (snaking back to the shower,)
The cleanout right next to the shower P shows liquid when I cracked it open.
So I ran the snake down the kitchen sink line the shower Wyes into and no luck there.
I just can't believe it's that solid of a block for a camper but something is in it.
I was using a real light duty sink snake at about 10' long so there wasn't enough mass to really push on it.
I'm going have to step up to my bigger one and pray.

inthepines 07-21-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasTwoStep (Post 5840829)
Are you sure the valve is opening when you pull handle?

Yes, I'm pretty sure?
water in the tank did come out. Wasn't a lot, the ppl I bought it off of had it hooked to the city water to show me the hot water tank worked.

So some water came out no idea how much was in there before I took possession of it. I'm assuming it was empty and what water did come out was from them just hooking it up and showing it for sale.
Oh edit to add, there was no water in the cleanout closest to the gray tank so if it was backed up, I'm sure I would have seen water in the line there.

Old-Biscuit 07-21-2021 10:00 PM

Where are all these 'clean outs'?

Never seen/heard of 'clean out's on RVs

inthepines 07-22-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit (Post 5841363)
Where are all these 'clean outs'?

Never seen/heard of 'clean out's on RVs

Lol ok...
1 is under bathroom sink, 1 is near shower.
I'll take a picture later since you never seen them before. Guess I'm making it up?

Old-Biscuit 07-22-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by inthepines (Post 5841715)
Lol ok...
1 is under bathroom sink, 1 is near shower.
I'll take a picture later since you never seen them before. Guess I'm making it up?

Never said/implied you were making it up

Unwad your panties and post the pictures :flowers:

Never have seem a cleanout on Trailer plumbing so I'm curious

inthepines 07-22-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit (Post 5841722)
Never said/implied you were making it up

Unwad your panties and post the pictures :flowers:

Never have seem a cleanout on Trailer plumbing so I'm curious

You're right, not enough coffee this morning.
I need to thank you too because when I opened the cabinet door, a mouse ran off.

Old-Biscuit 07-22-2021 11:51 AM

That's a first....good idea!

1st picture looks like the one under shower
So should be able to snake backwards from cleanout to shower drain thru the 'P' trap

Many times...slow shower/Hair caught in drain
Pop the cover off and clean out

Which other RV MFGs did same............

inthepines 07-22-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit (Post 5842004)
That's a first....good idea!

1st picture looks like the one under shower
So should be able to snake backwards from cleanout to shower drain thru the 'P' trap

Many times...slow shower/Hair caught in drain
Pop the cover off and clean out

Which other RV MFGs did same............

Correct, that is the one right after shower P.
There is liquid at that point. When I started opening, liquid started to drip so I closed it up.

I'm going to try a heavier duty snake, if that doesn't work, I'll get the shop vac to try and get it emptied so I can open the clean out there.
I have a feeling it's where it ties into the main drain which is after that cleanout.
I'm surprised campers dont have these. I assumed it was a standard.

inthepines 09-24-2021 01:11 PM

Left this on the backburner for a bit.
Getting the heavier duty snake into the drain isn't working out, kind of afraid of breaking the plastic crosses in the drain.
So I went with the hot water solution.
I can get a good quick drain with the swirl and it empties quick I believe.
Yet still showing water in the drain below the crosses. (sorry can't think what they are called)
Thinking out loud here and let me know if I'm offbase.
The tub drains directly to the P trap.
I am thinking that since it drains right into the P, I'm going to see water because that is what traps do.

Most every drain I've ever seen there is at least several inches of a straight pipe before the P.
So you don't see the standing water in the trap.
It drains great, you just see the water and I am just concerned with it freezing.
I planned on pouring some RV antifreeze down the drains anyway so I'll just pour more down that drain to displace the water?

Old-Biscuit 09-24-2021 01:31 PM

Yes on that shower drain

Drop from shower drain to inlet of 'P' and then oulet from 'P' trap to drain line with cleanout is VERY short
Water seeks it's own level
Level of water would be at top of oulet and hence showing in shower drain

Anti-freeze down ALL drains S/B done when winterizing/freezing temps expected---toilet bowl too

Thanks for followup...

inthepines 09-24-2021 01:33 PM

thanks for tagging along and helping out.


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