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All very interesting comments which have me thinking I should adjust my cold pressure up the 5 to 7 psi that it has dropped after night ambient temps have dropped. Not that I have any plans of traveling until spring with the exception of maybe a once a month 5 to 10 mile up the road and back trip to keep the fluids circulated. Be interesting to see where pressures are this spring when I get ready for our first camping trip.
Amazing though all the miles I put on a Big Truck crisscrossing all lower 48 states and never had a blowout or tire problem. I would check pressures before a 2800 mile run that could take 38 to 40 hours non stop except for fuel. while fueling i would Thump the tires, do a visual check, check Cat eyes tire pressure monitors and back on the road. That's how it goes with running Critical freight and a Husband and Wife team. Got to keep those wheels turning!!!! Never had a blowout and never let the tires get excessive wear before changing, for new ones. Also amazing the miles I would get on a set of tires!! No such thing as age out before wear out LOL. I'm getting quite an education since I got the Motorhome, wondering how I made it all those years in a Big truck and survived!!!! :eek: |
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I think the difference is that there you would just inflate to max, and not worry about ride quality or handling (my guess is that the trailer does not really care how rough the ride is. [emoji4]). When i adjust the tire pressure to the table load based pressure, i am chasing ride quality and handling. Period. When i got my first rig 10 years or so ago, i inflated toe tires to sidewall pressure. Handling was absolutely awful. After adjusting tire pressures to load, handling was wonderful. Yes, using the table pressures means you are walking a line and need to monitor them, but it is worth it for the comfort and reduced driving stress. |
For those storing their coaches, Michelin (and I suspect others) recommends inflating tires to PSI on the sidewall while stored.
This directly from the Michelin RV Tire Guide. |
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Minor correction. The numbers on the tire sidewall really mean: Tire Max load. No increase in inflation above the pressure number will give an increase in load capacity. The "MAX LOAD" is just that. Tthe maximum load capacity of that tire. The inflation number really is the MINIMUM inflation needed to support the stated Max Load. Yes I know the wording can me confusing. I have no idea why someone decided that "MAX Inflation xxx MAX Load yyy" was the best way to convey the instruction. Only excuse I can come up with is that they were too informed about tires and inflation and didn't realize that many would translate the "MAX Inflation" to mean at any time. They certainly didn't expect people to have the hot pressure displayed on their dash. Even today only RV owners with aftermarket TPMS are the only people being given hot tire pressure numbers. |
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Yes this is a good plan. A benefit is the reduction in "Flat Spotting" where a tire goes out of round and the deflection can take a "set" of flat spot where the tire is in contact with the flat road surface. It can take many miles to "work itself out" but running the higher pressure will tend to keep the flat spot smaller. Not zero but smaller. |
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My list gives Psi at 70degrF/ degrF/psi 71 psi/ 6F/psi 77 psi/ 6F/psi 75psi is in the middle of this so remember 6degrF/ psi. Then when wanting to check the pressure at 100degr F ambiënt temperature, do 100-70 = 30 degrF hotter , devide by 6 is not coincidentially 5, so fill or you should read 5psi more cold, so 80 psi. Then dont lower it to 75psi, the tire needs the lesser deflection it gives, so lesser heatproduction, because cooling down is also worse, because of the smaller temperature-differences between rubber and in and outside tire air. When ambiënt temperature 40degrF 40-70= -30 degr hotter so 30 degr colder, so you will read 30/5 = 5 psi less, so 70 psi. Then the other way around , more heating up but also more cooling down, so rubber still wont reach its critical temperature. Only difference then is that you may use the 75psi for better riding-quality and fuel-saving, but for savety, so your tires dont overheat not needed At extreme colder or especially hotter ambiënt temperature this can go wrong, but in the range motorhomes are used this will be safe. But I made the list in first place for those who have tmps with external sensors, wich temperature reading is worthless, because temperature at the end of the valve, and not of gascompound in the tire. Then you can only use the pressure reading, and calculate by head the temperature. But even internal sensors can give , but less, deviation in the temperature. The cold filling is an extra. 1Motorhome and Crasher , see it right that tmps brings also new worries. But if you then know why it gives strange reading, you dont worry anymore. Then you can let tmps do what its made for, and that is to warn for sudden pressure- loss. This then will be send to the recever-unit within 1 second( when 2 psi pressure loss), so a tmps-seller wrote me, their sensors ( tiremoni-system) sends normal reading every 90 to 120 seconds). |
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Oddly, on one of my passenger vehicles, equipped with Michelin tires, the minimum recommended pressure to support the maximum load of 1477lbs, is 36psi. Yet the sidewall shows a maximum cold pressure of 44psi. Determining correct tire pressure should be one of the easiest things anyone could do. It doesn’t require anecdotal stories or complicated math. For a vehicle owner, it really is simple. |
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Ok, i think i see what you are trying to do ... calculate needed inflation at a given temperature to give a "target" pressure should the tire cool down (or heat up) to 70 degrees. (Ideal gas law stuff). BUT, this presumes that the inflation charts are premised on "cold" being defined as 70 degrees. My understanding has always been that "cold" really means "ambient", regardless of whether it is 100 or zero degrees. This also makes sense from a mechanics perspective, as it is the pressure inside the tire that actually supports the load, and you will need that given pressure regardless of what the temperature is. Thought experiment - assume your approach that you need say 75 psi at 70 degrees. But the ambient temperature is 30-40 BELOW zero (F). This approach would have you drastically reduce the pressure in the tire, to a point where it is virtually fully flat. Just does not make sense (at least to me). Tireman - are you able to confirm/refute whether the inflation tables are premised on a 70F ambient? |
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Not Tireman, but I can ABSOLUTELY refute that inflation tables are based on any specific ambient temperature. Said another way, the are based on ambient temperature before driving. Might be 0 degrees F or 100 degrees F. |
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