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Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 01-09-2018, 09:32 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 504
Posted By Old Bounder
You are not missing anything. BUT, I don't think...

You are not missing anything. BUT, I don't think the floor carpet extends as far under the slide as you think. On my '97 it is about 2" at most. After you get all the obvious staples out, you can...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 12-20-2017, 04:59 PM
Replies: 15
Bounder: 99 Bounder A/C
Views: 1,295
Posted By Old Bounder
This was a common problem with those systems. ...

This was a common problem with those systems. The ECC was very susceptible to interference from a questionable/faulty florescent light. In other words, the problem is with the light, and not with...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 08-21-2017, 02:21 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,832
Posted By Old Bounder
More like 5W. You are lucky to get one amp from...

More like 5W.
You are lucky to get one amp from them. Not much more than a sales gimmick.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 08-21-2017, 10:05 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,832
Posted By Old Bounder
This is factual design information. Computerguys...

This is factual design information. Computerguys operational assessment is also correct. My previous post simply specified how the small panel was physically wired. Fleetwood has installed these...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 08-20-2017, 01:20 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,832
Posted By Old Bounder
On all the Fleetwood Bounders that I've worked...

On all the Fleetwood Bounders that I've worked on, the small solar panel was/is wired to the House batteries through a 3amp fuse in the BCC. This same BCC was common across all class A gas fleetwood...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 07-29-2017, 08:07 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 2,120
Posted By Old Bounder
If the steps also STOP working when you toggle...

If the steps also STOP working when you toggle the disconnect OFF, then I agree with you that that is a valid test.
There is a relay on the BCC circuit board specifically called the "Ignition...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 07-29-2017, 06:25 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,750
Posted By Old Bounder
Try pressing those two little black plungers...

Try pressing those two little black plungers (buttons) on those two gray devices just to the right of the BCC board. Those are the two DC breakers in the feed circuits of the house batteries that...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 07-29-2017, 06:13 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 2,120
Posted By Old Bounder
Those 12V breakers with the reset buttons are on...

Those 12V breakers with the reset buttons are on the house battery side of things, so I doubt that is your problem. You might check BCC fuse-19, however.

Also, check for battery voltage where the...
Forum: Class A Motorhome Discussions 07-22-2017, 11:17 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 679
Posted By Old Bounder
The parking brake has absolutely nothing to do...

The parking brake has absolutely nothing to do with the battery disconnect solenoid operation. If you would simply check the replies to your DUPLICATE post in the Fleetwood forum you will see the...
Forum: Class A Motorhome Discussions 07-22-2017, 11:07 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 679
Posted By Old Bounder
This is NOT how the disconnect solenoids work. ...

This is NOT how the disconnect solenoids work. The voltage is reversed when you press the TOP of the switch from that applied when you press the BOTTOM of the switch.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 07-20-2017, 03:11 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 519
Posted By Old Bounder
The solenoid in question is located in the BCC. ...

The solenoid in question is located in the BCC. I'm not sure just where the BCC is located in the '02 Pace.

My assessment is this;
The fact that the green LED comes on when the switch is pushed...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 07-11-2017, 08:12 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,332
Posted By Old Bounder
Judging from the photos, you have a BCC with the...

Judging from the photos, you have a BCC with the CB-200 circuit board prior to release level "F". Look on the printed circuit board for the designation. Use the list on page one to determine when...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 07-11-2017, 08:03 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,332
Posted By Old Bounder
Judging from the photos, you have a BCC with the...

Judging from the photos, you have a BCC with the CB-200 circuit board prior to release level "F". Look on the printed circuit board for the designation. Use the list on page one to determine when...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 07-11-2017, 07:51 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,332
Posted By Old Bounder
Yes, an early version of it. The document tells...

Yes, an early version of it. The document tells you how to determine what functions were added/altered on any specific release of the circuit board.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 07-11-2017, 02:57 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,332
Posted By Old Bounder
Here is a link...

Here is a link (https://www.dropbox.com/s/197du3lhqmxcjsi/RV%20CP%20BCC%20latest%20Info.pdf?dl=0) to a document to assist in analyzing and fixing your problem. Ask any questions you may have.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 06-28-2017, 09:03 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 722
Posted By Old Bounder
Normally it does. Unplug from shore power and try...

Normally it does. Unplug from shore power and try the switch. If the disconnect is working properly you will have interior lights with the batteries ON and the lights will go off with the batteries...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 06-27-2017, 07:52 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 722
Posted By Old Bounder
There are folks here, including myself, who would...

There are folks here, including myself, who would be happy to answer any questions he may have. Good luck with this and future problems.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 06-25-2017, 08:58 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 722
Posted By Old Bounder
Send me a PM with an email address and I'll send...

Send me a PM with an email address and I'll send you the diagrams and test procedures.

I just found a way to send the link. Here is a Link to info....
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 06-21-2017, 04:57 PM
Replies: 15
Bounder: 99 Bounder A/C
Views: 1,295
Posted By Old Bounder
Bounder (Fleetwood) used that exact system from...

Bounder (Fleetwood) used that exact system from 1996 through the mid 2000s. It is designed to provide the ability to run BOTH air conditioners on a 30amp system. Being a ducted system has nothing...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 06-20-2017, 11:42 AM
Replies: 15
Bounder: 99 Bounder A/C
Views: 1,295
Posted By Old Bounder
The '99 Bounder 34V was NOT a 50amp coach when...

The '99 Bounder 34V was NOT a 50amp coach when new. If it is currently a 50amp coach, then someone modified it and there is no assurance that the Intellitec ECC system is still effective or even...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 06-08-2017, 07:40 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,259
Posted By Old Bounder
The Pace does use the one relay (solenoid) to...

The Pace does use the one relay (solenoid) to accomplish the aux start (override switch function that you mentioned) and the charging of both batteries from the alternator. The Intellitec relay...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 05-29-2017, 10:41 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,248
Posted By Old Bounder
If all the other functions (i.e. turn signals and...

If all the other functions (i.e. turn signals and brake lights) work, but the Emergency flashers do not, the most common cause is dirty switch contacts inside the flasher switch or the multi-function...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 05-07-2017, 07:35 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,266
Posted By Old Bounder
Your pump controller may be in the same general...

Your pump controller may be in the same general area as your BCC, but it definitely is not in the BCC. They are totally separate and different animals.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 05-07-2017, 10:14 AM
Replies: 23
Views: 2,012
Posted By Old Bounder
You are welcome:):):cool:

You are welcome:):):cool:
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 05-02-2017, 12:41 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 2,012
Posted By Old Bounder
Good point!. It doesn't have to be a problem...

Good point!. It doesn't have to be a problem with the Positive battery cable as I suggested. It can (and was, in your case) be the Negative cable.

Interesting fact: The aux batteries in the...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-29-2017, 10:17 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 2,012
Posted By Old Bounder
The fact that you seem to have DC power with the...

The fact that you seem to have DC power with the engine running is because your chassis battery (really the alternator charging voltage) is closing the isolator/charge solenoid (connecting the house...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-29-2017, 04:45 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 2,012
Posted By Old Bounder
Bill, I am not sure what transfer switch they...

Bill, I am not sure what transfer switch they used in your Bounder (it may require 12V to pass the 120vac through), I don't know. Also, I don't know if your inverter is a "whole house inverter" or...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-26-2017, 01:00 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 4,605
Posted By Old Bounder
You most likely have a release level BCC-PC board...

You most likely have a release level BCC-PC board of "A" or "B". The fuse reassignment happened in release level "C".

Your F-15 nay be for you luggage comp. lights.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-11-2017, 04:33 PM
Replies: 8
Bounder: electrical issue
Views: 1,139
Posted By Old Bounder
Your main battery is BAD, or has a bad...

Your main battery is BAD, or has a bad connection.
As I said earlier, all the voltage you see on the circuits mentioned is coming from the converter/charger when on shore power. The solenoid and...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-10-2017, 08:38 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,462
Posted By Old Bounder
Your coach is definitely designed to charge the...

Your coach is definitely designed to charge the house batteries from the alternator while driving. It's possible that there is a problem in that circuitry, but since you said "both" house and...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-10-2017, 03:31 PM
Replies: 8
Bounder: electrical issue
Views: 1,139
Posted By Old Bounder
Unplugging should NOT cause loss of 12V from the...

Unplugging should NOT cause loss of 12V from the MAIN battery. That's why I said that having power to P4-11 (when plugged IN) is because the converter is closing the isolator solenoid in the BCC and...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-08-2017, 01:15 PM
Replies: 8
Bounder: electrical issue
Views: 1,139
Posted By Old Bounder
It's obvious that the contacts of the "Ignition"...

It's obvious that the contacts of the "Ignition" relay, (Relay K5 on the BCC Board) are not closing with the Ignition KEY ON.

Now the question is; Do you have 12V on Pin-11 of connector P4 with...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-05-2017, 01:19 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,305
Posted By Old Bounder
Glad it worked out for you. By the way, what...

Glad it worked out for you.

By the way, what software do you use to produce your drawings. I need to update my draw program to operate on windows 10.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 04-02-2017, 08:53 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,957
Posted By Old Bounder
This link should work....

This link should work. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2fv7v2c9zgnjq7x/Latest%20BCC%20Info.pdf?dl=0https://)
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 03-30-2017, 09:21 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 9,423
Posted By Old Bounder
Good plan. Take some pictures of the board,...

Good plan.

Take some pictures of the board, with special note to where all the wires are plugged into the board, before starting removal. You can't be too careful in documenting your every move.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 03-23-2017, 03:55 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 9,423
Posted By Old Bounder
Just to correct some of the terminology used in...

Just to correct some of the terminology used in this post...

The two Disconnect solenoids are mechanically latching (actually magnetically latching) solenoids.
The one aux-start solenoid (also...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 03-10-2017, 01:54 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 1,576
Posted By Old Bounder
I couldn't tell you if the shape or design has...

I couldn't tell you if the shape or design has been changed between the two solenoid coils, but it has always been stated that the dump and leg solenoids were electrically and physically...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 03-02-2017, 02:01 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,305
Posted By Old Bounder
Coastal fishing trip has been rescheduled for 3/6...

Coastal fishing trip has been rescheduled for 3/6 through 3/9.

Your wiring plan for the relay and switch is fine.
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 03-01-2017, 10:26 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,305
Posted By Old Bounder
Assuming switch OFF means the switch contacts are...

Assuming switch OFF means the switch contacts are open: using the relay and switch, wired as you show in the diagram, the functionality would be:
Ignition OFF, dash switch ON = normal operation of...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-28-2017, 07:01 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,305
Posted By Old Bounder
I agree that the KISS method (Keep It Simple...

I agree that the KISS method (Keep It Simple Stupid) is often the best approach, however, what I suggested is NOT rocket science and certainly not "overkill" in my estimation.

The advantage of the...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-27-2017, 10:32 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,305
Posted By Old Bounder
I'll try to find time to draw a diagram in the...

I'll try to find time to draw a diagram in the next day or two, but I'm busy preparing for a few days at the coast fishing.

Basically, the relay would be wired the same as in your solution. The...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-27-2017, 09:31 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 2,305
Posted By Old Bounder
I am looking for a way to disable the charging...

I am looking for a way to disable the charging from the chassis alternator. Seems there is a very simple solution but wanted to run it past the more knowledgeable here.
The below diagram indicates...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-26-2017, 11:12 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 527
Posted By Old Bounder
There is a box mounted on the outside firewall...

There is a box mounted on the outside firewall under the hood that contains fuses, relays (solenoids) behind the circuit board and two DC circuit breakers in the bottom of the box.
They look like...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-25-2017, 09:47 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 527
Posted By Old Bounder
I do believe that the generator starts/runs off...

I do believe that the generator starts/runs off the house batteries, so I suspect the batteries are okay.

It seems that the converter/charger is also okay if you had 12V power when the generator...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-13-2017, 01:59 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,135
Posted By Old Bounder
Ask and ye shall receive........ ...

Ask and ye shall receive........
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15918372/RV%20CP%20BCC%20latest%20Info.pdf)
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-13-2017, 10:04 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,135
Posted By Old Bounder
twinboat has it right. The BCC will close the...

twinboat has it right. The BCC will close the Isolator relay if/when it senses charge voltage from the Magnum rise above 13.2v, which will connect the batteries via cables "B" and "D". There is no...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-12-2017, 07:16 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,135
Posted By Old Bounder
KF5UMC, your Fleetwood coach most definitely is...

KF5UMC, your Fleetwood coach most definitely is designed to connect the batteries (house and chassis) when the Magnum is in charge mode. It's a function of the BCC.

The cycling you described is...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-09-2017, 10:07 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 3,949
Posted By Old Bounder
'UP' connects the batteries and 'DOWN'...

'UP' connects the batteries and 'DOWN' disconnects them. Here is some information (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15918372/RV%20CP%20BCC%20latest%20Info.pdf) that you probably did not receive...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-08-2017, 07:11 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,957
Posted By Old Bounder
Scotty, I'm going to take the chance that you can...

Scotty, I'm going to take the chance that you can read and follow the procedures and diagrams in this file (or can find someone with the skill and patience to help you understand it).

Here is a...
Forum: Fleetwood Owner's Forum 02-08-2017, 04:46 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,484
Posted By Old Bounder
The Magnum Inverter/Charger basically uses the...

The Magnum Inverter/Charger basically uses the same circuitry to Invert (12vdc-to-120vac) and charge the batteries (120vac-to-12vdc). It's the same principal as the heat pump. Run in in one...
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