09-10-2021, 07:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,014
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Originally Posted by DeetsMaggie
Agree with net jam....."No better, no worse" in terms of quality. It's a good coach but with the issues below I believe it was overpriced and that Renegade quality is way, way, way over hyped.
Problems on 2018 36VSB in first 30 months. Nearly of them in first 24 months.
Rubber baseboard molding around steps came unglued on first warm weather trim. The adhesive used was a gluey mess to clean up and repair. It never set, it just melts, requires acetone to clean it up.
Self closing drawer slides of very cheap quality. Replaced 3 sets in first 24 months. Originals continue to fail. Woody sends new slides, but same quality as original.
Control board (ignitor) for furnace failed. Woody sent a new one.
Propane pressure gauge sending unit had to be replaced. Woody sent a new one.
Particle board drawer in dinette crumbled and screws attaching the slides pulled out. Rebuilt drawer out of good cabinet plywood.
Leveling jacks hydraulic pump mounted to steel box/platform against M2 frame rail. Aluminum pump valve body mounted to platform with mild steel bolts. Pump body not grounded. Galvanic corrosion of steel bolts turned them to dust, pump slides around box ungrounded, repeated beeping from controller while driving indicating jacks are down at 65 mph. Really shoddy construction . Fixed it myself, re-installed it right with appropriate bolts and good ground to chassis. This was at less than 10K miles.
Plastic cover on wiring terminal box under rear of coach (where the 7-Way rear plug is wired) missing after trip home from dealer. Ordered new terminal box, installed it myself.
Arriving at home after pick up from dealer find rear axle flange bolts loose, differential heavy weight oil slung all over both sides of coach. Axle bolts all loose, can turn them with your fingers. I regard this as a significant safety problem. Trip to Freightliner, new gaskets, axle flange bolts torqued to specification, fill diff with oil. Renegade referred my complaint to point of contact at supplier of their M2 chassis. His response..."I'm not surprised at all, we ship those chassis to Renegade stacked with rear axles/wheels off. The manufacturers, in this case Renegade, frequently don't re-install them correctly." Rep thru Renegade under the bus, absolutely no apology or regret expressed by Renegade or Freightliner. Just finger pointing.
Coach delivered in winter (March 1)and was winterized (at factory) when took delivery. Flushed out antifreeze and put in fresh water first of April. Water poured out of Splendide washer. Dealt with Splendid direct and them shipped free a new hot/cold mixer valve assembly. They say it's a common problem with dealers not winterizing washer correctly. Getting the washer on a 36VSB out of cabinet to replace valve is a nightmare. Coach was built around it. Splendide is a good company.
Swivel plates on driver and passenger cab seats require super human strength to rotate the seat. Renegade refers you to Freightliner. Freightliner say just squirt some WD 40 in there. We finally just ripped the swivel mechanisms out.
The Care Free awning problem you all know about.
Or dealer was true to form for an RV dealer. Of no use.
Netjam got it right, No better, no worse. Just a typical RV.
But three cheers to Woody. He is responsive and helpful within his power. I think he is the last of a dying breed.
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Gee DeetsMaggie Can't hardly believe you would complain about something so minor as a few axles falling out and a few gallons of differential oil coating the under-carrage!
LOL Sure glad you were observant enough to catch it. I've seen a flat rear tire on an RV slinging rubber and on fire and it took me 10 minutes to finally get the drivers attention to get him to pull over.
Well this certainly is not a Freightliner problem, someone at Renegade stuck the axles in and started the bolts by hand then was distracted by their "Allocated Cell Phone Time" and flat forgot! Cell phones are responsible for a hell of a lot of errors across the board.
Stay Safe - Mike
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